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The Child Support System is a little known mess of incompetence and corruption… unless of course you have been caught up in it.
People today are concerned with our Society conforming to Third World …….. (NOTE: Out of deep respect for Our President of the United States, I have removed the two inflammatory words as asked.). My Question for you is this: After spending some time reading and understanding the situations that flood these pages, Does it not already exist, right here, right now in the United States of America?
We have a Great Country, no doubt. In my opinion, we have a Great Leader. We need to come together and make Washington aware of what is happening, so we may have the opportunity to make this a Greater Country for our future generations; the Children.
NOW IS THE TIME FOR REFORM! NOW IS THE TIME TO SIGN AND PETITION FOR YOUR RIGHTS!
YOU MAY SIGN AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH AND EVERY PAGE.
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Indigent Servitude is very much alive and well in this country. Children are victims of the Child Protective Service and Child Support Enforcement Agencies… Children are a ‘money’ making commodity!
Every Signature that we obtain, is in ‘direct’ support of OUR VETERANS at:
A former ‘Enforcement Officer’ becomes whistleblower and exposes the corruption that she witnessed “EVERY SINGLE DAY” within the Child Support System!
OBJECTIVE: When we obtain enough signatures, we will be flooding the Offices of those whom ‘we’ put in office. To include those testimonies of Violations of the U.S. Constitution, Amendments 4, 5, 7, 11, 14. We will also be calling upon the media wherever and whenever possible.
Please take a moment and SIGN for Child Support Reform. You do not have to be directly involved in the Child Support System to Sign this Petition. Yet, we are all apart of the System; if someones’ U.S. Constitutional Rights are being violated, you are being violated. How much more Government interference are you able to put up with? Presently, the Children are always the losers; relationships are being ruined, thousands go to jail and thousands commit suicide each year! PLEASE USE THE COMMENT FORM TO SIGN LOCATED AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE; Click Here for shortcut to FORM. Thank You!
NOTE: Group Administrators, Leaders, Presidents… see “ORGANIZING GROUPS HERE” link to the left of your browser. Thank you.
“The more of us we have, the more hope we have and hope is the commodity we need; RIGHT NOW!”
OBJECTIVE: When we obtain enough signatures, we will be flooding the Offices of those whom ‘we’ put in office. To include those testimonies of Violations of the U.S. Constitution, Amendments 4, 5, 7, 11, 14. We will also be calling upon the media wherever and whenever possible.
Please take a moment and SIGN for Child Support Reform. You do not have to be directly involved in the Child Support System to Sign this Petition. Yet, we are all apart of the System; if someones’ U.S. Constitutional Rights are being violated, you are being violated. How much more Government interference are you able to put up with? Presently, the Children are always the losers; relationships are being ruined, thousands go to jail and thousands commit suicide each year! PLEASE USE THE COMMENT FORM TO SIGN LOCATED AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE; Click Here for shortcut to FORM. Thank You!
NOTE: Group Administrators, Leaders, Presidents… see “ORGANIZING GROUPS HERE” link to the left of your browser. Thank you.
“The more of us we have, the more hope we have and hope is the commodity we need; RIGHT NOW!”
I am a paternity fraud victim in Arkansas. This has been a very cruel process for the non-biological child, my biological child, family and friends all perpetrated by the sociopath that committed this fruad and the court system that has empowered her. My story like many other victims is outrageous and it is beyond disbelief that there is absolutely no kind of restitution.
I’m requsting more info on my rights as a father and an american, please email me thank you.
I support the petition for child support reform
I support Child Support Reform
I do support Child support reform. I believe that it should be done at the Federal level, forcing all states to comply. I believe there are constitutional issues that help support this.
I do think current laws make a mockery of equality in parenting, encourage divorce, and the real victims of these antiquated laws are our future generation. Lack of accountability of some custodial parents and non-custodial parents alike have ruined lives. Support money should be transparent as many times can be used to support unrealistic lifestyles. Enforcement may be more complex, but government has never simplified our tax system.
Responsibility without accountability? It simply creates resentment. My personal government
job rating?….about as good as our schools. People on this forum….please listen. Nothing gets done without involvement. That means sending an e-mail link to everyone you can.
http://petitionchildsupportreform.com/. Let the government know how you feel. Get it on the ballot..
I do have something to say even though my daughter is an adult now. I think we should know what the custodial parent is using the support money for an example .when you see your children with holes in their knees, on their pants or they are wearing clothes that are to big on them . or the child says that my feet hurt my shoes are to small on my feet. and they make the decisions as to what the money is spent on. The FOC should audit the custodial parent as to where it is spent on and not put it away in a bank acct. For there college . The money is suppose to be used now on the things the children need now and not later. And what about health ins? For them the money is to help out with your portion of the payment on the ins. So come on lets get together and get a petition signed to get this put in the F O C hand book as one of the new guide lines that the custodial parent has to be aware of that way our children will have a better life . So the custodial parent wont use the money on them selves . So how about it anyone interested to start this up ?
I totally support your petition. I have just made a lens about the Child Support in the UK.
Ultimately the children suffer-why?
Keep on fighting!
I am a victim of child support laws. My ex signed up for public assistance even though i was paying her support directly. I was made aware of the situation almost 2 years later when the courts had frozen my bankc account and suspended my license and passport. Apparently, her actions led to a forced judgement against me and the establishment of regualr payments through the courts. This is an unfair law as I have supported my child and am being forced to pay money back that she was given by the state. It is time for reform and I am willing to help. What can I do to help get the lasw changed?
Child Support of Lake County, Ohio operates like a band of extortionist, and the end result is basically, “F@#+ you, pay us.” I can right a book about the here about the violations of my rights but I’ll spare the reader. It’s to the point I’m seriously considering moving out of the country.
My children and I have been victims of this system for 6 yrs. My arrearage total is bogus. I could go on and on and on about the injustice i have endured. Please allow me to be fully involved in this movement and let me help any way I can. Keep me in the loop!!!!! If anyone should go to jail it should be the custodial parents or as I like to call them the hostage takers….
This issue must be addressed. We must continue to push forward to get the men (and women) affected by this crime relief. My husband (we’ve been married almost 10 years) found out 3 years ago that one of his daughters is not his boilogical child. The ex doesn’t want children told the truth. the court issued an order which states that the child is only to be told in a counseling setting. Now, this seems reasonable provided we had a mentally stable mother who would actually follow the court order and take the child to counseling. Nope, not a chance this kid is going to see a counselor if the mother has anything to say about it. Meanwhile, she holds this order over our heads as if she is holding a gun on us. Tell me how that is fair? There are no laws protecting men the way women are protected. As a mother, I love my children and would do anything to protect them. It took knowing this woman to understand that not all biological mothers truly love their children. Some, this one for instance, just see them as a paycheck. And what about all the child support my husband has paid over the years? The court ordered that future support and responsibility for medical bills cease, but there is no way for him to recoup what has been paid. Additionally, she doesn’t miss a chance to fight every request for reduction that my husband files. He had to quit his occupaiton of 25 years because she wouldn’t allow him visitation if he wasn’t there exactly on time (only due to having to work late). If she is so hard up for support and help with medical bills that she has to hound him, why isn’t the father of the daughter paying support??? And why does the court seemingly protect her year after year??? I will tell you why. His ex is a teacher in public school system. This child is most likely the product of an affair the teacher had with a student. She has had repeated affairs with students over the years. For the love, it’s about time something gets changed. Fathers deserve rights, men who are victims of paternity fraud deserve justice. There are those who would argue it is in the best interest of the child for the “father” to remain financially responsible. If that is the man’s choice, I am all for it, but i should be his choice. And do we REALLY want our children being raised by women who will commit this type of crime and cover it up??? Not me. I have witnessed first hand the damange that is done. Please sign me up to support you and please keep me updated on any news you offer. Thank you from Northwest Arkansas!
Jonathan Grantham
Child Support REFORM is needed, not to work against our children but REFORM to fight for our children.
Isn’t it ironic how fathers have absolutely no say when it comes to abortion. If she wants it she can, if not…well..you know. If the man wants the child, well, too bad, right? He doesn’t have the same rights when it comes to child support. I believe it should be paid (to the children), however In my own case, I was told it was not my concern as to how she spends her money…we were never married but she treats it like alimony. fix the system….hmmm….too late for that. Needs a wrecking ball and dump trucks. Just as womens rights and racial equality were brought to the spotlight in the 60’s, non custodial parents need to organize, be inclusive, and think on at least a state level. Laws MUST be changed…not just in child support, but in visitation. People have to make some noise about this….not just whimpers and whining. Public officials hate to be on tv. Get enough people with signs to picket….with a permit, as close to the courthouse as possible. Get petitions…
There really is power in numbers
I have found a few issues with the system in the 9 years i have been paying. First off i am remarried with a newborn son ( i can actually spend time with) and we have worked hard to pay off arrears and things on our credit so we can buy a house someday. Well with jobs tough i got behind again a bit. THEY PUT IT ON MY CREDIT? This is beyond unfair considering how hard i have worked. Then they charge you INTREST? just to make it a little harder on you. My ex will NOT let me see my daughter and i cant afford to fight it let alone i barely make it by trying to take care of the one i have now because my checks are hacked. I know i should pay but it is more than i can afford and still support my family. my ex and her husband make 10x the income we do and i am still stuck with 350 a month. They call you 8 times a day wanting money but dont give a $@%# if you get to see your child. We work so hard in life and are good honest drug free people . There is just too much black and white in their system. It needs to be personallized according to both couple’s income, paternity tested and the whole drivers license thing is idiotic they tried that with me too. I really got screwed when this psychotic bitch tried to trap me in with a child. I love my daughter but it seems as a father we get the short end of the stick. Even if they have a rap sheet and you can prove them as hazardous to the child. I am Right here to support the reform and i am signing now. We HAVE to put a stop to this.
Thank you for fighting this fight!!!
I am for Child Support Reform. It’s about time that the child support division be accounted for mistakes they make and the government pay back any child support payments that are sent, when they finally decide that there was a miss calculation on the Child support Division side and it is a greater amount then what is just and or overpayment made to them cause of there miss calculations. It’s not justifiable to punish the person paying child support or is receiving it. Keep up the excellent work and don’t give up.
As a former President of the Southwestern Division of Parents United, Albuquerque, New Mexico, I know how important it is to make sure our children are safe and it’s difficult to do that when you don’t receive timely child support payments as well as adequate amount of support. As a volunteer working with Social Workers and Psychologists in New Mexico, I found out how painfully slow government is when dealing with ‘Domestic’ issues like custody and child support and that they are actually independent of each other. Like many of you, I’ve had my world turned upside down by this very attitude and with little or no recourse. That was 30 years ago, and from the looks of it, very little if anything has changed.
I believe both parents are responsible for a child when they ‘choose’ to bring them into the world. Responsible in every way, no just child support. Both should be included in the childs life and ‘participate’ in their upbringing and socialization. Both parents ’should’ be included in child support, ratios based on incomes and non-working spouses should be based on minimum wage at the very least. I believe that cost of living and needs increases ’should’ be automatic without having to go to court and ‘fight’.
But I do not live in a perfect world, so ‘fight’ we must. For some, you will have to fight for custody and child support. Others will have to fight unscrupulous ex wives or girlfriends or fathers in paternity suits. A majority of us parents have had to deal with at least one thing that could have been dealt with better had the laws been changed. So, if the next generation, our children, won’t have to deal with the insanity of it all, I vote yes!
I am glad to see at least someone is doing something to fight this injustice. I have witnessed all the problems that come with the child support system because my husband has had to deal with it for years. I am appalled at the incompetence, bureaucracy and downright corruption of the child support system. It is very hard for fathers to get any assistance or support. The child support system does not empower anyone, the least the child. It is a corrupt system that only exists for profit and enslaves everyone participating in it. In the current economic conditions putting fathers into debt is inhumane. There needs to be a public outcry over this issue. The child support system violates fathers’ basic human rights.
Dear Elizabeth,
I agree that both parents should be involved; but not with the Government!
We are told by the Government that Child Support keeps people off Welfare. What a Lie!
Everyone on Welfare is staying on Welfare. They are receiving full Welfare Benifits and a full Child Support Payment - minus what the Agency skims off. Matter of fact, collecting Welfare makes Child Support mandatory. All these ‘billions’ of dollars without no accountability. I, like many others are told, “It is none of your business what the money is used for.” None of our business at the parental level or at the Governmental level? Is this America?
Govenment for the people….
What is (let us say) $.01 X $ 1 billion dollars???
Where does it go??? Child Support Clerks??? What about the outrageous excess, where does that inconceivable amount of money go???
It sounds great, “Fight for the Children.” But not with Government involvement. The majority of non-custodial parents support their children, until Governmnet gets involved and enforces ridiculous payments… then enforces things like frozen check cashing privledges, emptying bank acounts, taking tax refunds, suspending licenses, (how are you supposed to drive to work on that one? Lawmakers forcing you to break the Law?), then there is imprisonment, denial of passports, denial of paternity tests, using birth certificates to determine paternity, threatening to take personal property… I could go on and on.
What sounds great and what is reality, are night and day.
This system is about lining pockets! “WHOSE POCKETS’ Now that is a Question!
I have one question, why does the state automatically provide an attoney for the woman ?
That means they are in business with her, and they do not care about the wellfare of the child/children. It is a business where they make money off the interest from the money
they collect from the men that they put into economic SLAVERY to work for them.
They do not enforce and make sure that the best interest of the child is met: what right does the GOVERNMENT have to take your property, bank account, tax return etc. this should be an outrage: when they suspend your DL and put you in Jail how does that help the child, no one wants to hire you when you have a criminal record and how are you suppose to go to work or look for work if you cant drive? It does not make any sense. The system is not balanced as it should be, it is corrupt, and is not meant to be fair to the non-costodial parent.
They should provide the non-costodial parent with a lawyer to make it balance, but their intention is not to do that, it is to make us into slaves for the FEDERAL RESERVE and its STOCK HOLDERS ( BILL CLINTON MADE SURE OF THAT WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT) and they used the woman to do it.
ALSO WHY IS IT OK FOR A WOMAN TO COMMIT PURGERY IN A COURT OF LAW, BY LYING UNDER OATH THAT SHE DID NOT RECEIVE CHILD SUPPORT when in fact their is evidence to the contrary, and she is not held in contempt, and her case dismissed ?
Whats going on here? This is a court of LAW if she sue’s a man for child support, she should prove her case with evidence just like in a ordinary court proceeding.
Something is DIABOLICAL and WICKED not to mention corrupt about these courts all accross the 50 states. We need to do something. We should file charges of contempt of the law against these JUDGES because they sware to uphold the law. Believe me it can be done I have seen it happen on several occasions. I have seen JUDGES forced to resign because of contempt charges against them. If your childs mother lies in court and the JUDGE allows her case, file charges against HIM/HER for contempt of the law in the APPLET OR SUPREME COURT and watch things change. I am for the reform of the CHILD SUPPORT SYSTEM because it is corrupt and unjust there is no justice for the paying parent lets do something before we loose everything including our life..
I definitely support the petition for child support reform, I’ve been in debt for support ever since my daughter was born. After she was born the mom refused to let me be apart of our daughters life, then when I went to court to see court ordered visitation, the b@#^h tried to involuntarily terminate my parental rights so that her new husband (who is white and doesn’t like African Americans) could adopt my daughter. So I told my attorneys that if I sign over rights I’m not paying the $2,500 back support I owed, she agreed and the day we were to go to court she called up claiming she was sick and couldn’t make it. The courts allowed her absence and a week later I find out that she changed her mind.
To make a long story short, I’ve been paying support ever since, I make 336.00 a week and I pay 90.00 support and 10.00 for arrears, with the intrest on the back support, it’s been holding steady at 2,500 for the past 4 years and hasn’t moved. So I’d like to know what the problem is and how this shit can possibly continue.
Kali McDade - New York State Child Support system is corrupt all the way and certainly favors the custodial mom.
I wanted to add that I currently have visitation every other weekend with my daughter, I’ve had it set that way for over a year, I recently went back to court to see if I could get more time, as in a week to week deal, the judge totally denied me; on no basis. No hope for non custodial parents unless you have a paid attorney instead of a court appointed attorney.
I Just wanted to say that i’ts crazy how i’ve sold drugs and did a lot of illegal shit but i’ve been clean and crime free for over twenty years and the first time i have to do some real time in jail i’ts because i can’t find a job to pay someone who has a child that she knows is not mine.the courts are all about the women because if it wasn’t then a woman couldn’t just give them a name and a phony address and after a few court papers to the wrong address your automatically the father of a stalking groupy bitch baby. especially when you gave her the money to get an abortion for a child that may or may not have been yours from the jump.if anyone has any pointers or want to get together and rally aginst the unfairness let me know seriously.
Support laws need to be changed, as fathers who can not afford to pay their obligations from time to time due to unemployment, disability. ect… are thrown into “debtors prisons” and denied equal protections and equal rights as defined by the constitution of the United States.
Drug dealers get easier consequences in the courts and receive “due-process” why do non-custodial parents not receive “due-process”?????????
How can you still force us to pay, but not force the mothers to give us an opportunity to see our child? If we can’t see our children, then don’t take our money. Another thing, if I get a raise, they take more money. If I get laid off, and have to take a lower paying job, instead of reducing my payment, you tell me to get a 2nd and 3rd job. What the hell sense does that make?!!!!
HELP ME GOD NOW BEFORE YOU SEE ME SOON
Earnest,
I have been fighting paternity fraud for some time. It is an up hill battle. There is nothing morally or ethically right about what our court system, legal system and politicians that make and influence law are doing. We all need to somehow unite and take our country back to represent it citizens. The government is supposed to be about the people and all I can seem to find is the government is about the government first and formost and taking care of itself. If there is something that the government fears will cost them financially they will make a financial decision rather then a just decision. You can survey all the people you want about the replies/stories on this site and none of them will think it is right what our system is doing. Law is no longer set on the basis of peoples consititutional rights.
I support Child Support Reform.
I support the petition for child support reform. I am married to a man who has a vindictive ex wife and he has been a victim of this corruption within the Michigan court system. It’s too long of a story as many of the others have said, but I would like to help. I have also had a few other friends who have had licenses revoked for no reason. I even had a friend who only had $90 a week by the time they took his support out. They create dead beat dads, and it’s so unfortunet for the children.
I support the child support reform petetion. If there is anything I can do to help make a change please do not hesitate to contact me. I want to be as involved as I can. I know it’s too late for my case, but if I can help other fathers who still have a change it would be a great thing to know that I help prevent somebody from going through this nightmare of unlawfulness.
The current system that is in place is biased towards men. Although I filed a complaint to establish paternity, custody, and child support, I was made to feel like the bad guy in the court room. I have been in favor of Child Support Reform ever since.
I live in New York City, and my life has been destroyed by the child support system! I am separated from my 3 children, all my rights and freedoms have been stripped from me. I can’t obtain a driver’s license, passport, and I can’t find suitable work in which to try and pay off this monsterous debt imposed on my life! I believe anyone trapped in this system has been given a death sentence by the government!
Politians are scared to oppose the system, churches are scared to oppose the system, and the media won’t give “fair” coverage on the tragedies created by this system. What can I do to help make a change? I will devote any amount of time to any organization serious about fighting this corrupt system.
I SUPPORT CHILD SUPPORT REFORM. I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING A HATEFUL CHILD SUPPORT DIVISION FOR YEARS. I PAY AND PAY AND MY BACK SUPPORT NEVER GOES DOWN. I KNOW THEIR FIGURES ARE WRONG BUT GOOD LUCK GETTING ANY COOPERATION WHEN YOU’RE NOTHING MORE THAN AN NCP (THE TERM DHS WORKERS USE AS IN THE SAME CONTEXT AS THE N*** WORD). I HAVE MULTIPLE FALSE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST ME BY MY X-WIFE WHICH THE DHS DEPARTMENT ALSO USES AGAINST ME. I’VE TRIED ATTORNEYS BUT THEY ARE AS SCARED OF DHS AS EVERYONE ELSE.
Going to jail for not paying CS when you CAN”T pay it is crazy. How is that suppose to help get it paid? It can’t. It’s simply puts people in jail for being poor.
Terri,
A quick reply. Someone goes to jail for six months. Gets an early release if they participate in a work release program. They get paid, not enough to pay the child support obligation. Thus arrears… thus interest… thus more arrearage.. thus more interest… Thus CHA CHING $$$$
Disgusting insn’t it? A Pennsylvani Judge brags about her accomplishments in this very same matter. This practice is used everywhere!
this is crazy they keep closing more and more jobs and it is so hard to find one that will cover the bills and all of that plus the suport i think something has to be done. right now it is u pay or go for 6 months but your support builds the 6 months you sit and if your caseworker does not like then u r screwed they will do everything they can to put u in jail.
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I feel the current support laws encourage separation of children from 1 of the parents. It’s all to easy for one parent to deny custody to the other in order to gain monthly income. The courts don’t care this is happening, or just don’t know how to address the problem. Perhaps an idea is to just split the cost down the middle regardless of nights with each parent. This would encourage more interaction between the parents and less emphasis on “I need 23 more nights with the child to gain $XXX more dollars”.
The system cares nothing about the child. Children need parents not money. This sick system is what keeps fathers running from there kids. As long as the check keeps coming mom thinks she is doing just fine. Sorry you don’t see it mom but that kid wants dad not your child support check.
I support child support reform.
I believe if we all marched on the Capitol and protested this something has to be done. I have not seen my child in 12 years. I am battling a heart condition and had my doctor sign papers that stated I was unable to work until I was well enough to go back. I was threatened called everyday mailed every other day with threats of prison, the stress put me in ICU and I nearly died. She has stated over and over again that the child is not mine, but yet I have been denied a DNA test by the courts even after my family was willing to pay for it. I had support set at such a high amount I was working for free and never seen a paycheck. What do you do? She worked 3 jobs and only claimed she only had one even when I showed them proof of her working they would not accept it. I found the we have no rights at all none nothing nada I was told by a judge right before he sentenced me to 180 days, that if I have to live in a cardboard box on the streets as long as the support is paid who cares. I say we all write a letter and send a copy to the president everyday until our voices are heard. March on DC for reform start a revolution for reform!
HELL ON EARTH, AND NEVER ENDING JAIL = A CORPORATE PRISIONER
I HAD A GIRLFRIEND THAT WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY - GOT PREGNENT THEN PUT CHILD SUPPORT ON ME EVEN THOUGH I WAS SUPPORTING THE HOUSE COMPLETLY.
I LOST MY RIGHT TO DRIVE, FISH, VOTE, AND BECAME A FELON BY COURT ORDER, BECAUSE THE CAR INDUSTRY BROKE FOR 3 YEARS AND I KEPT FALLING BEHIND DUE TO A VERY BAD ECONOMY.
ITS A GREAT ECOMONY IF U INVEST IN PRISONS. I WILL HAVE TO GO THERE AN UNTOLD NUMBER OF TIMES. AND OF COURSE THE BILL KEEPS GROWING EVERY TIME I GO TO JAIL, SO THE CYCLE HAD BECOME SATANIC!
WHATS THE ANSWER? I THINK ALL AMERICANS WILL HAVE TO TAKE SIDES.
THERE IS NO MORE AMERICA FOR ME. ITS OVER. THIS LAW CANCELLED IT OUT.
I FOUGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY AND NOW THIS HAPPENS. COURT ENSLAVMENT.
I HAVE ZERO FAITH IN THE COURTS AND GOVERMENT, ITS OVER. I CAN NEVER CATCH UP WITH THE BACK PAYMENTS SO I WILL BE GOING TO JAIL OVER AND OVER FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. THIS IS NOT AMERICA, ITS HELL ON EARTH
CALL ME A DEAD BEAT, ITS ALRIGHT, BUT EVERY DAY IT GROWS. THOUSANDS GET CAUGHT IN THEIS SLAVE TRAP. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF US AND BILLIONS ARE SPENT ON JAILING US. AND NOTHING GETS DONE OR CHANGES, ONLY MORE PROFITS FOR CORPORATE JAILS. I DON’T CARE ABOUT THIS COUNTRY ANYMORE OR WHAT HAPPENS AMYMORE. I GIVE UP
Something has to be done about this mess system. I live in the state of Louisiana. We serve under the present legislature, “The More We Make, The More They Take”. I don’t have a problem with providing for my 2 boys. What I do have a problem with is being legally raped! I have a good job and I am also have family(married) that I am taking care of right now. To be honest about this situation, I can attest to say the child support is a tremendous financial burden. I love my boys, but I have to be honest to say that the child support issue has damaged our relationship.
We need child support reform for the NCP now! An we need it today!
I agree with the members of this site, something must be done to really reform the child support system in this country, if a man is jailed then he gets a record, if he gets a record then no one will hire someone with a criminal record so how can one work to pay child support? Yes this system is geared towards enslaving decent individuals who are willing to actually take care of their children.
Something has to be done! Yes, we all agree that children have to be taken care of, but the non-custodial parent has the right to food and shelter as well. Right now the system is not taking that into account, and it is a travesty!
I am a victim of the Mass DOR child support system. Barnstablie county court completely discriminates against fathers.
The mother is very weathy, ( multi million dollar lawsuit) the father struggling to survive on a minimual income, is refused rights to his children, even tho there is a court order in place. I’ve been in bankruptcy court 2 times because the only way to pay is by borrowing money and ultimately not being able to pay it back. children are both over 18 now, one over 21 , living away from home since 18, working a full time job since 18, have a court order saying she is emmancipated however the courts refuse to ac knowledge the court order. I am continually told they are the state of Mass and as such can do as they please.
There needs to be reform to control the out of control judges.
Mass is the worst state in the union for fathers, check how many lawsuits have been filed in Mass for disciminatory acts against fathers.
I was point blank told in the court room by the judge to SHUT UP! the judge and dor atty, and the ex wife were all talking about ME like I wasnt there, I was not allowed to say anything at all. told to shut up! Yeah thats due process, democracy in America!
Anything I can do please let me know, child support has ruined my life, I am open to helping any way.
I FULLY SUPPORT CHILD SUPPORT REFORM. STOP JAILING LAW ABIDING SOVEREIGN AMERICAN CITIZENS FOR WANTING TO CARE FOR THERE CHILDREN. IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT MONEY IT’S ABOUT EQUAL PARENTING AND LOVE FOR YOUR CHILDREN, SPENDING QUALITY TIME WITH THEM TO BE PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE IN SOCIETY. STOP VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION.
OCSE (the federal office of child support enforcement) has FOUR TIMES as many employees as the DEA! The State CSE’s run money laundering rackets JUST TO FUND THE STATE - by using the SS#’s of any child in the system - the PURPOSE behind all this - it’s NOT the “child’s best interest” - READ THE BANKERS MANIFESTO OF 1892. It’s called Communism, and people, if you believe you live in a “free” country called the US, you must’ve been asleep in the poppy fields when the Police State was implemented in 2000. Seperate the children from the FATHER - and you get a FATHERLESS NATION - our Founding Fathers forewarned us. see my 4 min youtube Speech to Va. Delegates -Expose the racket. Think TWICE about “state employees” and “federal employees” - and what their paychecks represent.
child support agencies are a joke. If the parent who has the child or children can postpone the court date because it interferes with their cruise. They have a laywer and you can’t afford one. something is really wrong.
i support the child support reform. i am a victem and still being treated unfairly by the child support system. my wife is in the military and she was stationed in fort bragg so we had to move from florida. i am currently looking for a job and having trouble finding one. they are threatening me to tke my license and my truck. my wife gets deployed to afghanastan in the beginning of next year and we have 2 children together. how can i take them to school or their doctors appointments with no license?they have threatened to put me in jail. whos gonna take care of my kids if they do that? im scared to death! ive thought about ending my life but im taking some people with me if i do.
I hope that this is for real because as a father who tries to be there for his children the courts seem to make sure that im not! Why is the recession real for big corporations who end up getting bailout money at our expense but the recession doesnt apply for a fathers looking for work! I dont want a bailout I want understanding and to be with my kids. I hate this system its geared for the interests of the government not the children. I pay my child support and its 3-7 days before my child sees a dime but I can deposit my money in a bank backed by the same people in charge of child support who is the federal government and I have access to my money the same day! Who gets the interest on the billions they collect? Not my kids! My license gets suspended if I dont pay child support and then I have to pay to get it back when the money that I give them which could amount to $500 in some cases just to reinstate it could go to my child, instead the state gets it why? If my sons mother wants to issue me a credit for money that Ive given her outside the court order they charge her $50 to do so when my child can get that money why is that? This system is geared to make sure that the courts stay busy incarcerating fathers and the federal government both reap the benefits financially! Are the children in there best interest? Not if there parents are being put through a lengthy legal process that creates turmoill between parents and puts a strain on there family’s relationship because the courts make it go from a parenting issue to money. I was raised in poverty but there was plenty of love in my household and somewhere along the lines america lost those values now its about money!
I Support Child Support Reform
My children and I both are victims of unfair child support.
In 2007, I fought for joint legal and physical custody of my two children, Bridget 11 and Lukas 14. I WON.
I provide them with a purchased family home; I attend all school functions, and remain totally involved in the live.
I am currently paying for all their medical and dental expenses. Both children are currently in braces and I am flipping the entire $9,000.00 bill myself.
Even though we have joint custody their mother is identified as the custodial parent and I am the “NCP’. Why? Why this is not determined by performance, instead a default?
I also have to pay her $600.00 a month for both children when I have them some 60 - 70% of the time.
Some joint custody… I wish someone law maker would realize the unjustification that continues to plague our father lead families, AND DO SOMETHING.
My husband and I reside in Houston, Texas and his children in Fort Worth, Texas. My husband and I have a new born son and he has been ordered to pay child support to his children from his previous marriage. (he should pay and support his kids) at the same time they are going that he made in the Army and he has been out since 2005! Here it is in 2009 and he is employed and covers the children in question under his health INS, but he is now getting 50% taken out of his pay for his child support, he pays 600.00 a month instead of 1180 a month and now he sits in jail, the thing is he has been paying something and his ex wife does not even let him see his children or speak to them. He has made every effort in doing so and she is out now laughing that he is sitting in jail. Now he is in jeopardy of losing his job and his health benefits because she wants to be greedy! how can you pay for something you can not afford, he should support his children I am not saying that! but at the same time it needs to be manageable to where he can keep up with the payments! Every single woman in that court room was bitter! I could not believe it! This has got to stop! He needs to work to pay, and he cant work sitting behind bars!
I Support Child Support Reform
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Thank you for the terrific input. Very powerfully written! Admin.
I Support Child Reform!!!
child support reform is needed
I think that child support needs to be reformed and immediately! I have two children that receive $125 a month for both, which doesn’t even pay for half a weeks of daycare or the groceries needed to care for them.. if we get it! Because their Dad lives in a State that harbors fathers that are willing to do this to their children, it is a huge problem! Society and people who abuse the system have allowed things like this to happen to others!
I need to ask a couple of questions concerning this comment. I am doing the math quickly here. If it is 17% for the first child and 25% for the second child per week, ‘gross wages’…(those are standard across the country figures, which are commonly exceeded), then $125/4 wks = $31.25. Which would mean their Dads’ weekly gross is $125. Which in turn means if he were working a 40 hr. work week, he is making $3.125 an hour.
What state is this?
Is this case handled through a Child Support Agency?
Please respond. Something is desperately wrong with this situation.
International recording artist Detroit Rocker TRIG ASHES new inspirational music video about one of the most controversial judiciary injudicious facing American Children today. With Detroit being in one of the worst economic regions in the United States , it is here that TRIG recognizes the desperate need to reform Family law legislation. “What I see in Detroit is only magnified compared to other areas of the Country “, explains TRIG. “I know that this growing concern is taking place everywhere and it is only getting worse.” What concern is TRIG referring to you may wonder? “Banks, Automotive and Insurance companies have been bailed-out but who is bailing out the children?” TRIG’s main concern is the lack of both physical and emotional support that may enter into the equation due to the outdated family laws. Trig continues, “Why should a child whom has a parent who wholehearted wants to be apart of a child’s life being forced to live without a lifelong relationship with a parent due to an unforgivable down turn in the economy. How many times have you heard for a non custodial parent who goes into hiding because fear of the judicial system that clearly sees no assets, no income, no home, and no car? This should not happen in the current economic state. In a time when more and more people can not afford to retain an attorney in their defense and the judicial outcome is neither beneficial to the child nor satisfies the laws requirements of obligation.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQzDQUSw9zY
i gotta say i thought this was the land of the just. and after I left the court room that day i felt like i had been bent over and raped. now i’m labled dead beat because i’m poor i go to jail occasionaly because i get to far behind i never see my kids because i can’t afford a car . I never eat and if i ever get sick even for just one day I’ll not make my rent and i’ll be homeless as well. when it gets to that point i’m out i’ll live on the beach or something ……….. something has to be done we need rallies at town centers and we need to hit national news the whole country must be made aware and be held acountable for allowing this to go on. 200 years ago they had similar polocies it was called indigent servitude and its how they made slaves
I’m in a situation where I was late for a court date to show cause why I wasn’t paying child support. They issued a bench warrant for almost 5,000$. I called FOC and they said to turn myself in to the courts. I know I would go to jail if I went down to the courts. I’ve been paying for years. I even went to court to have my support reduced. The only reason it wasn’t being paid is payroll stopped it from coming out of my check. I don’t know why, I already filed the motion for reduction and didn’t mind paying. My daughter is 21. I owe arrears from when I was young, dodging them. I’m 39, and in the process of trying to get my life in order. I’ve been doing pretty good until the economy fell, along with jobs. They issued a income withholding order for my job and increased the amount.
I feel like I’m stuck. I have print outs from the FOC and check stubs to show I had been paying for years. We need to come together to stop the government from raping us.
I support child support reform
I’ve watched what my son has had to deal with for the past six years. If it hadn’t been for the love that he has for his daughter it would have been so easy to walk away from this corrupt system. It should be complely reorganized with new employees and directors. What they have done to my son sucks and I wouldn’t wish that on any father trying to fight for his children.
He even lost his license for late child support payments that was a mistake on the part of the incompetent employee. Although he showed them receipts from garishments out of his check he had to pay for a lawyer to get it fixed. He had to take a position that didn’t require driving until it was cleared up. Oops, was all they said about the mistake.
Why is there no justice for hard working fathers who love and support their children?
I must give a $1000 a month. How can I pay my rent? My ex will not let me claim any of my two children? I can’t afford an attorney and even if I could, there’s no guarantee of victory.
Unless God steps in, I don’t have a way…
The day will come when we as so called debters will rise above these milky waters of injustice and the water will be clear once again. These child support regimes must be stopped in all 51 us states fo the america that it once was. Throw out the tryanny and unjust corruption for what they are. There should not be a bracket of people that are debters of free will,revoked licenses,denied passports,denied access to your children for debts,DEBTS OF exreme with overzelous interest and penalties,50% wage withholdings,loss of property did i miss something ? I havent had the priveledge to take a vacation in 20 years. I live in alaksa where the state is one of the richest in the nation and ask me why i owe 100,000 to this STATE of csed
The slave trade is alive and well in the so called “home of the free” It may sound like hyperbolic exageration, but that is perciesly what it has evolved into. If you read “Slavery by Another Name” you will see how the justice system was systematicly abused, corrupted, and profitized to imprison blacks and to turn their labor into profit for the state. The exact same thing is now happening to the American Man and most are blissfully ignorrant that The Marrige Industry is just the intake part of the “Family Destruction Industry”. They will never beleive that this could happen in “america” untill they are caught up in it and it is to late, The Lawers Union will have them in their grasp and, for many of them, it will appear that the only way out is murder suicide.
The entire system has devolved into an incentive plan for divorce, to feed the viratious appitite of the “Family Destruction Industry”. Do you really think that the divorce rate is continually rising on it’s own? It needs the continuous injection of “stimulous” from the enslaved, underemployed American Man.
The slave trade is alive and well in the so called “home of the free” It may sound like hyperbolic exageration, but that is perciesly what it has evolved into. If you read “Slavery by Another Name” you will see how the justice system was systematicly abused, corrupted, and profitized to imprison blacks and to turn their labor into profit for the state. The exact same thing is now happening to the American Msn and most are blissfully ignorrant that The Marrige Industry is just the intake part of the “Family Destruction Industry”. They will never beleive that this could happen in “america” untill they are caught up in it and it is to late, The Lawers Union will have them in their grasp and, for many of them, it will appear that the only way out is murder suicide.
The entire system has devolved into an incentive plan for divorce, to feed the viratious appitite of the “Family Destruction Industry”. Do you really think that the divorce rate is continually rising on it’s own? It needs the continuous injection of “stimulous” from the enslaved, underemployed American Man.
The system is corrupt we need to take a stand and do something about it if everybody refused to pay their csupport they would eventually run out of room in the jails to put everybody.
I support the child support petition everything that i have read so far is did on and is the truth!! we need to change the legislation immediately and bring relief to the families and to make aware to the parents that they are being used to fuel this evil CSE system, and how those in office accountable lawyers,judges,senators alike who have been fueling such a system that surely goes against the Constitution of this country making all Americans white,black, jews and gentile modern day slaves destroying the sole fabric of this country is “FAMILIES” just for profit.
im in support of the reforming the whole family law system!
I signed for my 6 yr old son and I for reform so we can actually be together
i am for child support reform.my daughter is 17 and has moved out of her moms house yet i still have to give her mom CHILD support!!!! i have the papers to take her back to court but i am really afraid of them actually raising it because it could happen and you know the courts want thier piece of the action2.i am so disgusted . i have tried to be a good father i give my kids whatever they need yet that bi… is still ruining my life.and to top it all off i have another kid that i am paying support to another woman and because she went out and got knocked up and cant work she is taking me back to court to raise the support she gets as well…give me a break because she went out and got pregnant it is gonna cost me more money!!!!!WTF i am getting screwed and didnt even get the good feeling
Thank You for helping our voice be heard.
i just spent 14 months in the oklahoma county jail, child support said i owed them, my kids are 25, 24, 22, and they all worked for my company, the company was suppose to go to them, but after spending that amount of time in jail, i had to seperate my 4 minor children, because we lost our home, and lost our business and our car, everything was lost, my wife filed for divorce and left me while i was in jail, wow, alot to lose over something they say i owe, my ex was paid in full, and more, she double dipped the system and i have to pay for it, you see as payee’s we dont have the state attorneys or the judges or child support wokers to help us, so when the costodial parent has a problem with the the payee, then they can use all the states resources to mess you up bad, wow. oh i learned alot while i was in jail, there is to many innocent men and women in jail over money, debtors prison, wow, today something has to change, because the system is corrup, my lawyer is a college teacher and yet they snuffed her like she was a babbling idiot, and told me to shut up, while they keeped talking like i was not there, wow my company made, past tense made 16 to 20 thousand amonth. and now nothing, the kids have nothing and the state has control, pray for the lost, the judges need to understand and all the people that are destroying families everywhere, galatians 6-7:8:9 be not deceived god is not mocked for whatsoeveer a man sows, that shall he also reap, for he who sows to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption: but he who sows to the spirit shall of the spirit reap life everlastiong. and let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. and dont try to read this like, iof we took care of our children then we would not be put in jail, only a idiot would think that way.
Bring down the courts raise up the family.
Stop stealing from children
When will this insanity stop?
Why have we elected these officials that are trying to destroy the american man.
I am about to loose my job, I have petetioned child support, they seem as though they could care less.
I am making 72% less money. I have been living off of $337.00 every two weeks for 7 months. She gets $800.00 every two weeks to drink and party and not support our child.
GOD HELP US
My child has not benefit from child support at all, it has only hurt us. Child Reform is a MUST!!! Only Pollutions, Lawyers, Judges, and disgruntled ex’s have benefited from child support laws. My child cannot even get a school lunch card form her mom; ware is all that money going.
My son was 18 years old when he first moved out of my house. He moved into a room mate situation. The all threw a party one night. A girl was there and slept with several guys at this party.. She found my son in the bathroom drunk and puking.. he told her No 3x’s. She would not take no for an answer. She got pregnant. My son did not report this because he said no one would believe him. I tried to make him report it and he got very upset and told me to stay out of it.. This was before the DNA test. I can relate, I was raped when I was 13 and I did get pregnant all I could tell people is “I do not Know”. I was scared. I did not want to see that person ever again. He was over 21 years old. My worse nightmare was going through my head when he told me this.
The girl called me once years ago.. and admitted to what she did on the phone. All she could say was “I know what I did was wrong, I am sorry, but there is a baby know and I do not want anything from him”. Boy! was that the biggest lie I have ever heard.
Next thing I knew my son was going to court. He refused to let me go with him.
He was forced to pay top dollar child support because he had a really good job at the time and allowed 20% visitation with no set days. My son saw his daughter once in over 6 years. At this time he already had his own family a little boy just a little younger than the little girl.
My son called numerous times trying to see her but the mother always said they had plans. My son would never allow me to get involved. He paid child support he is behind right now because he did not work for 9 months and they are now wiping out his bank accounts of every penny that goes in to it.
My son and his wife are now divorced and he has full responsibility of his son. He struggles everyday to make ends meet. They now have come back home to live with me because it got to the point I was paying for two house’s not just one.
The mother of his little girl disappeared for a couple years and we could not find her. We finally found her, even her income was on the net. She is a nurse, she makes 98,000 a year and she just had another baby out of wedlock.. maybe all the money was not enough for her and she wanted more.. or did she rape another guy for the income who knows.
My son has not seen his daughter in 6 years. He has gone to the court house each year trying to fix the child support and they keep telling him he has the wrong paper work or not all of it.. He has finally let me help him. I called the child support division … these people at this place are the most unhelpful people in the world, The most rudest.. I can go on.
My son is a wonderful father.. it shows in his son what kind of father he is.. my grandson is 7 years old top of his class and can add and subtract in the thousands.. a very loving sweet little boy.
She raped my son.
She raped my son of his daughter
She raped my son of his income.
She raped my grandson from his sister.
She raped her own daughter of a good father.
And the system lets her do this… My son has no money to hire a attorney.. I have been calling around trying to find help it is like hitting a brick wall..
The mother can get all the help she wants..
Shame on this system for being so neglectful. This needs to be fixed…
I’m a single parent of two from my first marriage and do not get child support for them. I tried for many years to get it but the TX system didn’t do nothing for me. I finnally dropped it because I have been doing it all on my own all this time. I also now pay child support for twins but do nt think it should be that high of a payment. I tried to get the twins but the court thought that a mother with a drug problem would be the better parent. Here drug problem was also documented with the CPS, Hospital and in the court.
CUSTODY, I would love to have. The child support payments should not be so much that it put my children living with me and I in debt to other bills. I’ve no other men who went to jail because the owed less than $5K….My first wife owed my over $9K and never got so much as a warning. I don’t want to go to jail so I pay even if it puts me more in debt. The payments should not be this much and the system should also lay some of the cost of raising the children on the custodial parent. If the cannot raise them with their income, then they should not be the custodial parent. Give us men some credit and take down the bad system that it has become.
After seeing what my husband has gone through, I am in total support of change and reform. Something needs to be done.
I am a victim of the Massachusetts DOR Child Support. My ex ran off with another man and when things didn’t work out for her, she went to live with her mother in MA. She went to the DOR and told them that i threw her out. They intermediately attacked me and are taking more than half of my paycheck. In the time it took the DOR to attach my pay, i had built up $1600 in arrears. They modified the order for additional money to be taken out to pay for arrears, then 2 weeks later put a levy on my accounts and took everything i had in the bank preventing me from paying any of my bills. This has caused me to lose my apartment, my car and created a financial hardship for me. When i called them they told me that all i could do is hire a lawyer and go to MA and fight it. I asked them how i was supposed to do that when they took all my money. They told me that was my problem. This is complete BS. She ran to them and lied and they believed everything she said. She is nothing bu a lying, cheating whore and i got screwed for it. Something needs to be done to punish the DOR and reform the laws they have written themselves, and prevent them from screwing us blind. There has got to be a law against this !!
To hum it my concern,
I would like to make this statement about the Maryland Child support system. My child has been used as a pawn so that the bias business of government can terrorize me with feminist racketeering. After they have empted my pockets with one broken hearted woman’s lies and allegations 8 times with protective orders (one of which I consented to and went to jail 5 times but never found guilty of anything except trying to be a father). She now has a new weapon called Child support! These people are just making things worst and not helping a bit.
Sincerely,
Wayne Sikes
I’ve just started to research the topic of divorce and reading all of these stories is terrible. The law simply isn’t flexible enough to accommodate for these terrible scenarios and this needs to change!
http://singlemarriedanddivorced.wordpress.com
The child support system in the state of Maryland is set up for the women ONLY.I went thru it back in the 60,s and it was the same back then and it has not changed one bit. It is a damn shame for the fathers.
Reform Is Over Due. Any one have information on a form to stop enforcement actions in wis?
I have been on both sides of this issue. Side1> My 34 year old daughter was taken out of the state and hidden from me by her mother, who had legal custody. It took my daughter becoming a teen and looking me up for us to become acquainted again. Because of the constant negative and untrue input by her mother and step father, who she thought was her natural father; she and I, by her proclomation, are now estranged. Side2> I have had legal custody of my now 18 y/o son for 6 years. I divorced his mother, different party, and she took off. She successfully avoided court ordered child support until this past year. Because she works on land owned by a Native American tribe, the laws that require her to pay $194.00 per month are not enforced. Instead, the Tribal Court has agreed to make an exception in my case and ask HER if they can enforce a partial order. Under objection, she finally consented. I am to receive $26.13 Bi-Monthly. It is not consistent, or dependable, and I have received less than 50% of what I should have by now. She now owes more than $17,000! My son is deprived from both the financial and emotional standpoints, here. He hates his mother! That’s taken a toll. No matter who you are in this equation, in this current system, you lose… Sad testimony for such an “advanced” species. Let’s change it!!
I just wanted to talk to someone who knows also what I am going through.i am a fater of 3 beautiful children.One who lives with me and my girlfriend and two that I pay over 800.00 a month plus insurance on.Also it is to different mothers.My oldest is 17 and she has not lived with me and her mother for almost 1 year now but because she is only 17 I stillhave to pay support to her mother.I could go file the paperwork to try to get it lowered but I am really afraid it might actually go up.My other child is my 6 year old son.Now this year I decided to get my contractors license just to have ya know.Well I made the mistake awhile ago and let my son have a business card,well his mom seen that and assumed I am rich I guess now,Right I am barely making it now.well I heard thorugh the grapevine she was going to take me back to court and what do you know I was right.So anyway me and her came to an agreement to raise it a little which was ok with me because she might actually be the one mother out there that spends the money on the child.So we put it in writing and filed with the friend of the court.Well today I get papers in the mail saying they cannot accept it because my son gets assistance from the state that his mother signed him up for.Which I am absolutely against because I provide insurance so he doesn’t need that asnd the only reason she evn got it is because she cant work because she went and got knocked up by her husband and I am going get stuck paying more money because of that,how is that fair?They also own a house and property yet me and my GF and daughter live in a 600 sq ft duplex barely making it.I just don’t understand it anymore.I have always provided whatever my kids needed and everytime I almost start to get ahead one of those greedy women slam me down.Its like I am suppose to suffer because I am the childrens dad,I can understand why fathers commit suicide I really do.I could never do that but I can understand.It hurts sometimes even to look at them.I don’t get how because she went and got pregnant and cant work and signed my child up for insurance he DOES NOT need that I have to pay more.The laws in the USA need to change and they need to change NOW.All the friend of the court is worried about is the money they could care less about the kids.I have never been behind in my payments and have always been there for my kids anytime they needed anything yet I am the bad guy.It hurts sometimes to even look at my kids because all I see is the hate I have for their greedy moms.
Well thank you for listening to me vent,I appreciate what you are doing.
The way things are set up now is ridiculous. It is time something is done about it.
I support Child Support Reform. The current system is completely unfair. The calculations are ridiculous and the actions that can be taken even when you are making your payments is robbery. I have a child in my home from my second relationship and I cannot support her because of the child support actions taken against me. I agree that the money sent for support should be monitored.
I am the wife of a man with custody. When he owed 150$ and was two days late the threatened to jail him.
Now we have custody and she owes over $8000 and they have done nothing to her.
I agree that something needs to be done. The system is not equal.
If you are a man in need of help there are no places to go to get help I even started a gather group (abusedmen.gather.com ) to try and start the flow of information.
WE HAD JOINT COM. NOW SHE FROZE MY BANK ACCT.
HELP ME KEEP MY MIND PLEASE.
You can count on my support!!!
This is a great website!
Great stuff here, James, with significant activity, too! I am responding to your direct email here in just a few minutes. As displayed here, i.e., an obviously active, intelligent and thoughtful state-level officer within the UCRCoA nationwide network of some 135-140 different family rights organizations, including your own, plus hundreds of state and county leaders across America, plus approx 20k people in online state and county groups, and as your also obviously having professional level communication skills, etc., I will be requesting that you might accept a higher, regional role and scope of responsiblity, for your skills and talents are both recognized, and desperately needed.
I will add specifics about your email inquiry regarding child support, in my response to that. Blessings, and have a great day.
I have fought the system, and seen what the system can do to the children. One thing that that you have to remember is that is it is about the money, and that is it nothing more.
It is a feeding or should I say “CASH FOR KIDS”.
Nothing more than a morden day Gestapo from a German Past. One thing I would like to state is that the State of Missouri is so crroupt, there is no justice for Fathers in that State.
This is why we need a marriage/baby strike in the western world, U.S AU, NZ, CA, UK etc etc.
We must put huge pressure on the system till it snaps. A passive stance will never work, but if men go their own way, ie passive aggressive, via inaction we will get the changes we need.
I suspect equality will take about another twenty years, if millions of western women miss out on children, so what! Guys our sperm is the only thing we have left to bargain with so guard it carefully.
I’ve been a father’s advocate for twenty years and I was thrilled to hear Carol Rhodes insider revelations on how family court really works.
Keep up the great work.
I’ll email you a free copy of my ebook: What Men Know That Women Don’t
Just tell me where to email it.
After 22 years of wrongful denial of access and parental alienation by the custodial parent, I received a Final Order in 2009 from the Court requiring me to pay $4400 for one child - despite the support being lawfully terminated in 2006. After years of false accusations, false implications in criminal activity and character assasination, I am left with nothing - no military career, little income ( after rent and utilities - $ 136 per month for food ) yet the Court took three years to decide that I still owe $4400 by disregarding factual evidence and inventing it’s own in order to base a wrongful decision. I may as well owe $44 Million as $ 4400 ! My case is definitively not unique by any means.
After 12 years of raising my son singlehanded and 8 years of fighting to retain custody pro se, my son was taken kicking and screaming from my home by the sheriff and City police and his father was given custody. My son has not seen anybody from his original family in over 1 year. I have been diagnosed with post tramatic stress syndrome and I am now the target of parental alienation in the severest stages. I will be spending this Thanksgiving, again, in the family court as the father has asked for even more child support because he and his live-in girlfriend of 15 years cannot seem to make ends meet now that they have to raise my son. My son is the loser in all of this. I pray everyday that the Lord will show him the truth.
Please reform now.
While it would be nice to believe that reform is possible, I do not believe it is or ever will be. The system has been shown - repeatedly and unambiguously - to be corrupt from top to bottom. To believe that reforming a known corrupt system is at best naiveté.
The Goal should ABOLITION! The family courts and the child support system is the single greatest threat to the fundamental family structure in this country. Both should be abolished; an end to unilateral divorce (no fault) and an end to incentives to divorce offered by the state (women overwhelmingly benefiting, who can be assured of the kids, the home, the kids and a guaranteed check every month).
ABOLITION of the current structure and it’s complete and permanent removal from all (unconstitutional) legal authority must be the objective. Anything less will be an open invitation to the abuse and corruption that making exploitation of children for the purpose of extorting money from parents that we live with today.
ABOLITION - not reform!
I am/was a victim of this travesty!
The whole system needs reform !
If half of all marriages end in divorce and 90% of those parents are not getting along this would mean 45% of ALL children are experiencing the negativity of the current situation…this is an epidemic!!!! An epidemic which will be adding to the already present social decay….
A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.
Margaret Mead
I am in full support of this petition!
I support this petition
The laws need to be brought up to date with today’s times and not the situations where we had a stay at home mom.
I support you 100%.
sb
I am sure everyone does not mind providing for their children. Everyone read your states version and the federal version of Title IV-D. I was told by my federal congressmans office that the states spend the federal money how they see fit, yet I was told by my attorney general’s office that federal law prohibits them from being involved in child custody. WHICH IS IT ??? As the speaker stated, there are no federal funds for the state to help ensure a child has access to both children. It is BUSINESS.
I do not mind paying, but as a loving devoted parent, and a tax paying citizen who has served my country my entire adult life, I do have a problem with a system that values a parents money to our children more than the parent themselves. There is a FEDERAL LAW mandating that a state run agency OUTSIDE of the courtroom be involved in collecting the money. WHY IS THERE NO STATE RUN AGENCY OR MONEY OUTSIDE OF THE COURTROOM TO MAKE SURE A CHILD GETS TO SEE THE PARENT ? We are always told “Sorry, you are going to have to hire an attorney”. This is not 1975 anymore. My EX makes more money than I do, gets the tax right off every year, gets my child support and I have to provide the health insurance and pay half the medical bills yet get to see my child overnight 4 days out of 30 when I live ten minutes away ! One system to make sure the money gets collected, but 50 different systems for child custody. IMAGINE THAT ! I can not say sorry I did not pay my child support because I had to pay my attorney. I would still be charged interest. If a parent would be penelized for not paying, then the other parent should be held to the same standard when we are denied seeing our children. THAT IS NOT HOW OUR SYSTEM WORKS.
We support Child Support Reform. We have both been divorced and each a single mother and single father who have suffered from the ill-will of our ex-partners use of the abusive court system. One ex-spouse has cost us over $60000 in legal bills to gain more money for herself. She sees our children as money makers only. She sours at the mention of the father and consistently lies to them to create feelings of guilt and animosity towards their dad. She feels it is her right to lie to the court to try and gain more money and power for herself. Now the lawyer doesn’t help us anymore nor protest us from her continuing power-trip because we owe him so much money and he can’t make any money off of us. She hits the children (the daughter told us). She ignores their schoolwork. She tells the kids that the child support is for her and not for them and takes them to K-Mart for clothes while she goes out and parties with her friends. The children have very low self-esteem and are always sad when they have to leave our home. And its because of the family court agency! Its a vicious circle that can only stop at the source: the family court. We can’t stop it because we can’t change a mother’s character from sociopathic to supportive. It is NOT all about the children. It is about money and it has got to stop!
Having gone through the court system, I am sickened by the way I was treated by Cathy Mizner in Ingham County. I was a stay at home dad with my first son for 8 months before his mom decided to up and leave. That poor little boy got stuck with the every other weekend with me and 1 day a week rubber stamp. Not to mention the child support.
I had a plan to keep providing care for him every day, as well as have 50/50 custody of him, and work a flexible job that I could sustain myself on… but since I had to pay child support, rather than have the opportunity to provide his daycare myself, he had to go to daycare because I had to get a GOOD job to beable to afford the child support. Where are his best interests?
I would be consoled by all the stories here and realize that my situation is not unique if it weren’t for the utter despair I have. Five years of going to extraordinary lengths and, if I don’t receive a miracle soon, I will be homeless.
Do you hear us Washington? Do you hear the outcry? Because, if you don’t hear us soon, it won’t be a protest and a petition anymore. It will be sedition. Do you think that is extreme? Our history, and the history of the world, testifies that when a people is oppressed to the point of utter despondency and contemplates suicide, it is then that they take up arms against their oppressors.
My oppressor is the government of the United States. Judging by the comments here, I’m not alone; not by a long shot.
Child support is corrupt and very biased. I am in favor of supporting your children. But I’m not if favor of support orders being so high that it leaves the father homeless and unable to support himself. I am going through this myself.
I do support the child support refrom
This has been going on for years and needs to be reformed! Children’s rights are being violated. They experience parent alienation and are deprived of their Father’s!!
I am a retired federal law enforcement officer, and I have seen drug dealers treated better than fathers in family court have!
The statement “In the best interest of the children” is a falsehood; the true meaning of that statement is “What’s in the best interests of the State.”
Family Court Judges, should be charged with treason!
The Federal Government should stop rewarding the States for creating deadbeat dads. Cut the federal funding now. If the state believes it has a child support issue, then it is the States responsibility to find it a solution.
My husband’s ex has lied about her income for years in order to collect higher payments from him. She makes more money than both of us put together, yet CSEA confiscates two thirds of his income every week and sends it to her. She lives in a big house with several bedrooms, drives new cars, has expensive gadgets (got a blackberry when they were NEW), goes on vacations, etc. We scrape by with the bare minimum, can barely afford groceries (but can’t get food stamps, because the same government institution - Health and Human Services - that has one branch - CSEA - taking money out of our household earnings has another brach - J&FS - counting that money as income available to us for spending on our needs. We live in a little two-bedroom apartment, drive 20 year old junk heaps, and MY son’s meager Christmas will come from an online points site, where I spent hours writing and publishing to build up the points to get a gift card to a book store… because we don’t have any money for gifts. In fact, I’m struggling to pay the arrears on our electric bill. Yes, I mean “I” and not “we.” She gets his income… I’m the breadwinner in our family. THANKS, Feminism. I feel REALLY liberated as I break my back to support another woman’s family while MY kid does without so SHE can have luxuries.
We once reported the ex’s fraud to the CSEA. We were told that it was ok for her to collect more than her due, because she was the mother, and she needed it… as if the child who lives with us somehow is less deserving just because he isn’t HER kid! If we want to fight for our family’s rights, we have to shell out money for a lawyer… which we don’t have, because they’re sending it all to her. When we try to go through CSEA channels, she does nasty little passive-aggressive things to the kids, like letting their younger siblings (her kids with her NEW hubby who ISN’T paying child support but still can’t support a family) play with treasured possessions of theirs knowing the kids will break them, or finding ways to keep them from visiting their father and brother at our place. We do anything, and the kids get punished.
So… we keep our mouths shut, and we pay. THAT’S what CSEA is all about.
The judge made me pay child support so high I could not live with my children, they knew this would happen to me but did it anyway, best interests of the children? That is just a smoke screen to shut us up!
I pay $1,500 a month for three children with a $15.00 an hour job! What the hell are they thinking? I had two options 1) I would become homeless because I didn’t have enough money left to pay my rent. 2) Move to another state to live with my mother and never see my children. Those were my options and the Judge told me that this is fair, can you believe that? I went back to court to try to get some time with my children in an attempt to get my child support lowered so I can just remain in my children lives, well, here’s what happened.
I got my children 43% of the time, a few overnight stays and the judge lowered my child support $25.00 a month! That’s it! That wasn’t even enough to take them to McDonalds for one happy meal! Then they added the $25.00 a month back because I was in the arrearage so nothing changed so I had to leave. When I told them I had to leave they were crying their little eyes out, as I drove off in my 20 year old car my children were running from front yard to front yard chasing me crying their heads off.
You have no idea how that killed me to my soul. And we are told that its for the best interest of the children!!!!!!! How the hell is making me do this is in the best interests of the children. And if this isn’t bad enough I have no tax shelters at all, I can’t claim them on my taxes or childcare deduction. She gets all this money tax free and she lives for free, no rent or mortgage to pay and vehicles are given to her for free.
And two months after that I was ordered to pay her government student loans all $40,000 of it. For all you wimmin out there that thinks this is fair and men deserve this you need to pull your heads out and realize that this just doesn’t affect men this affects women too. And that this is bad for everybody. And before I forget if you haven’t guessed I support this reform but to tell you the truth we need a hell of a lot more than that but this is a start.
I support this reform.
Its about time!!
Something has to be done to support the fathers who DO take care of their obligations~
I support Childe Support Reform. This system is criminal.
I don’t even have words anymore, I have my daughter about 45% of the time, her Mother is not working, I pay child support with arrears, it’s hard when I have my daughter I struggle, not because I don’t have a job but because 65% of my salary goes to child support. I feel I should pay the percentage based on the time my daughter is with me. My life has been destroyed as all my dreams will not be accomplished due to lack of money and time. All I do is work and pray for extra work. I use to love my country, I wish I could leave but my daughter is here so i will fight as we all do.
The child support system is corrupt!!!
I have a friend who has 3 children. he lost his job and cant find another a job. he owes back support and is now being thearten that he will go to jail. He is not a criminal or a bad father. He is just unemployed.
Fighting for your children is the right thing to do. I can’t stand mothers who try to destroy the fathers because of hatred
I really miss my children, I feel like a jagged sword has been stabbed deeply through my heart. I’ve lost everything, not sure I can bear it any more. I have tried all I know to do, but I always find that dead-end street.
I would like to sign this and maybe get some help with my battle. Thanks
It is amazing to see how many of us and our children are victimized by this unilateral and unaccountable system. I am all for the reform and willing to pitch-in anyway I can.
My fiance has been screwed for many years because of the way the child support laws work. He now has custody and can’t even get the State to obey a court order that says the back support is to be suspended, in lieu of the mother paying him child support. Therefore, money comes out of his paycheck, when we have NOTHING to raise the kids with. While the mother lives all high and mighty.
Child support is an incentive to divorce and sole custody. In other word, child support hurts kids.
REAL child support has NOTHING to do with a monthly check.
I have had my payment taken out directly to over 50% for 2 children I have tried to speak to the proper dept heads about this illegal with drawal ,no one cares .I support my kids beyond what the state says like a good father with everything they need now the child support enforcement has a second deduction on top of what they already deduct I PAY ALL MEDICAL how am I suppose to live while the mother get support from the stateand support from me this is robbery , no one is listening to me they dont care
I’m a single custodial parent who raise three girls. Then along came a woman who managed to have what she calls a miracle baby. It was a shock to me because I told her I don’t want anymore children because I have a grandchild already and am still taking care of two. She assured me that she was imposible to get pregnant and she just like my company.I still practiced birth control methods. This lady was awarded sole custody, care and control of said child, without proving that I was incapable of being a good parent. The Prosecution couldn’t so they ignored this part of the process just to require me to submit my gross income and proceeded to apply controvercial guidelines to me. This hurt my family and is still hurting it, By throwing me in jail till I paid $1400. I’m a disabled vet, 59 years old and cannot work anymore who would hire me. I ‘m still paying for my youngest girls first year of college, she had to stop because I could afford it. I’m still paying support and won’t be done till I’m 61. A Judge recently order that I can see my son only three hours during the week. and three hours evey other weekend. He will not come over unless I buy him some Bose Speakers. Now my yougest girl is married and about to have a child, which will be number 7 granchild for me. Yes, I support your petition wholeheartedly. We got to stop this corrupt judicial system from breaking down the Family for profit. I hear rumors that a part of my maintenace fees 55 dollars a year goes to the judges retirement fund. So you can understand why they always get a parent to pay. Remember hate tears apart, and love brings together. So how do you rate your legal system? Are they acting in the children’s interest or theirs?
I support Childe Support Reform.
I am a victim of Child Support fraud in Atlanta, Ga.
Children thrive with the active involvement of both parents. Children and parents should be encouraged to spend substantial time with each other regardless of the parents’ present relationship status. I realize and recognize that absent issues of abuse, neglect or abandonment, social and government policy must be structured in such a way as to promote and maximize the opportunity of all parents to contribute to the social, emotional, intellectual, physical, moral and spiritual development of their children. A Childs Rights Thought you would all find this interesting - A child has the right to: • A continuing relationship with both parents. • Be treated not as a piece of property, but as a human being recognized to have unique feelings, ideas, and desires consistent with that of an individual. • Continuing care and proper guidance from each parent. • Not to be unduly influenced by either parent to view the other parent differently. • Express love, friendship, and respect for both parents: freedom from having to hide those stated emotions or made to be ashamed of such. • An explanation that the impending action of divorce was in no way caused by the child’s actions. • Not to be the subject and/or source of any and all arguments. • Continuing, honest feedback with respect to the divorce process and its impact on the changing relationships of the family. • Maintain regular contact with both parents and a clear explanation for any change in plans and/or cancellations. • Enjoy a pleasurable relationship with both parents, never to be employed as a manipulative bargaining tool. • The obligation of being a parent does not end after a divorce. It is extremely important to understand that the bond of marriage is completely different from that of parents. This is the most common down fall in today’s society, as a dissolution of marriage takes place so does that of parenting.
Something needs to be done! I live in one of the worst states in America for child support, Florida. At the age of 29 I was diagnosed with P.A.D. At the age of 30 I was divorced and my health was deteriorating. I was selling used cars and making decent money. With only one child my ex was awarded 1600 a month based on one check I received in December which included bonuses and normal pay. To this day I am still paying 1600. The only difference is P.A.D. cost me my leg. I am now an amputee. I receive 638.40 a month when the mail arrives, if it arrives. Once again I live in Florida. I fell behind and honestly I was upset I couldn’t give my daughter the money. I lost everything! My car was reposessed, my electric was shut off for 4 months, I had to run an extension cord to my neighbors just to run a fan and my tv. Did I mention I had my kids 5 days a week! when I say kids, my ex had a child from a previous relationship which ended when the boy was 1. I am now 39 and still raising my kids 80% of the time. The court determined it was easier to take the money out of my check each month, granted her custody eventhough she said I was a more fit parent. I now am paying my entire check to my ex and she can’t cover her bills. She attempts to hold the kids for ransom if I don’t figure a way to pay her more. I love my kids and I have reached an all time low. They have shelter but lack the toys and normal things kids like. It breaks my heart to not have something fun for them to do. I have resorted to finding free items and selling them to cover the difference between the 1600 and the 638.40. I was taken to court and told I would be thrown in jail if I didn’t come up with an additional thousand dollars because she told the judge she was suffering. Once again she told the judge I was the better parent and I had the kids the majority of the time. This had no effect on the judge because he knew I would find a way to pay. I am currently poor. I do still have my children and I do still pay. The system is the most corrupt division of county government whom get rewarded for retreiving money from good parents who can’t afford to pay anymore. Pay or go to jail in Florida. I base my existense on the success of my kids who are thriving in school and sports. I can live without the money, but just think what I could do for my kids with a few extra dollars. I have rambled on long enough. I do not feel sorry for myself. I definitely support child support reform!
FIX THE SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The system is broken. It’s not about taking care of our children, it is about federal funding, and how much money the states collect from the federal government.
I have just started to educated myself on this issue and I fear that we will lose our beautiful America because of it. No known civilization has survive the destruction of the family unit. Case in point Rome. Only solution is a movement to shame the country into restoring what God meant it to be in human relationships. Follow the money and you will find the Devil laughing at mankind, I would rather die regaining my freedom then to live in servitude. Only man can enslave another, for God loves us so much that he gave us freewill; the corner stone of freedom. Have faith that there will be a day of judgement for all of those who have seen fit to violate Gods laws for profit. I’m going to make myself a sign stating that Paternity Fraud and all the related evils surrounding it needs to be reformed and stand in front of my local Court House. Imagine if we all did it and joined each other in this effort. Surely the media would be if enough of us did this.
my husband is a vicitim of the corruption of Florida and Georgia chlld support divisions. He just spent the last 6 hours talking to child support and the IRS. He has given his last 7 tax checks to child support and according to indiana he is paid up. But now Florida/Georgia stating he is not (and his kids were amancipated in Georgia) and no one is cooperating. They just laugh at him and Florida states they are a YEAR behind in paperwork BULLCRAP!!!!! they said they will continue to take his tax checks until the “paperwork’ is caught up and it goes through!!!! I don’t get it!!!!!!!!!!!! it is soooo not fair and no one is helping. What gives the right for the child support to steal from us who are trying to do what is right????? they point out told my husband he could not sue them because they are “protected”!!!!!! i am thoroughly disgusted with the so called “system”
This is more on behalf of my roommate then myself, since he is the one currently under the child support gun, but I whole heartenly believe that reform is desperately needed. My roommate is providing me full time child care for my special needs son in exchange for me covering his room and board and smaller bills since he has not been able to procure employment since he lost his job in November of 2007. He has two child support claims against him which do not acknowledge each other and at least one of the claim submitters either purposely lied or willfully with held information regarding her income and has in effect inflated the amount that my roommate is required to pay her. Because I am not able to pay him cash, he is unable to pay the support. He has been informed they are proceeding with contempt charges against him for non payment. He has tried several times to tell them the information regarding his income, and hers also, is false but is only ever met with accusations of being a deadbeat dad and not owning up to his paternal responsibilities. We had been trying to save money to hire a lawyer and take this issue to court to request a modification and subpoena her employment records, and also request each be modified to recognize and acknowledge the other to hopefully reduce them down to a reasonable amount. Instead the money that would be going to hire a lawyer, which isn’t much, is going to pay on these claims to hopefully keep my roommate out of jail. As things stand, if my roommate/day care provider goes to jail, I will either have to quit my job and will then end up homeless with a special needs toddler, or I’ll have to give my son up for adoption to keep my job simply because I can’t afford day care for a regular child, let alone a special needs child. If I lose my son I’ll have no reason to work and nothing to keep me going. I tried to do the right thing and take responsibility for my own decision to keep a child I wasn’t supposed to be able to have. I didn’t file a child support claim because I felt if I wasn’t able to care for this child on my own without the help of someone else, I have no business keeping this child. Granted I have the help of my roommate (who is also the paternal biological source for my child, unofficially his ‘father’) but that is an arrangement he and I have made with each other because we are friends and he is trying to help me. In return I’m trying to help him. I’ve seen second hand the inequality of the system and it definitely needs to be reformed. Too many women use the system as a means to exact revenge and in fact one of the women who has filed a claim against him, the one who incorrectly reported her income when she filed, has flatly told him she hopes he goes to jail because that is what he deserves. This was spit at him vehemently when he tried to contact her and appeal to her sense of humanity and try to make arrangements with her for payment outside of the system. His going to jail will not serve any purpose but to cost tax payers money to keep him incarcerated. It will also be the cause of one single mother losing her son so two other single mothers (one who technically isn’t single since she has been living with another man every since she learned she was pregnant) can have what they feel is justice. There is no justice here. My roommate is automatically guilty simply because he owns a penis. The laws need to be changed to acknowledge the rights of a woman to choose life or not. Consent to sex is NOT consent to conceive. With the choices a woman has if she becomes pregnant, a man should also have similar choices should he not wish to have a child and shouldn’t be forced to pay for a child he didn’t have any say in whether or not was born. It is time for change so women can’t continue to use the system as a meal ticket or a tool for punishment. Add my name to the petition.
Reform is much needed in this country!
The state has been “stealing” money from me basically since i was old enough to work. The state puts “interest” so they call it, on every month….and this “interest” is more than four times of what i get paid, so the debt just increases. I understand that there is supposed to be some rule that they are not to take any more than 25% of my pay, but they take 75% of my pay most of the time. sometimes i get lucky and they may only take 50 to 60% of my pay. I guess it is some word they somehow attached “legal process” to or something. So, here i am…eating food from the trash, and living off 400 dollars a MONTH. Rent is paid..woo hoo! Is it just me, or does it just seem more appealing to just not pay, and sit in prison…not having to work and get free food?
Jonathan Pinkney
I Support this
I support this reform
I am in support of this cause.
My name is Jonathan Finley…
I am here to support you in any way I possibly can. My sons have been taken across state lines to California without even so much as a hearing. I retained an attorney and filed the necessary petition to stop her from leaving with my kids. The judge gave her permission without even completing our hearing. I was told she would have to come back to complete the hearing. It’s been almost 5 months now and still no hearing. Meanwhile my childsupport was raised another $155.00 a month to $687.00.
My ex-, being a court employee here in Chilton county, seems to have a major advantage. My being a non-custodial dad definately hasn’t gave me any advantage. Meanwhile I have been temporarily laid off from my job and for the first time in 6 yrs. I am behind on my child support.
I have 14 yrs. of military service. I currently a drill troop in the 117th Air Refueling Wing in Birmingham, Al. This will probably cost me my military career before it’s over. I have already accepted that. I question whether I can serve this country much longer. I am praying for a miracle……
I miss my son’s………
Jonathan S. Finley
Jemison, Alabama
My husband has been going through this hell for 6 years now. His ex- just left the state with his two sons with a blessing from the courts and the circuit judge. I support change.
WOW… This is alot of information to take in. Ok. I’m all for reform. I do believe that this should be in the best intrest of BOTH parents and child. I’m actually on both sides of this. I’m a divorced mother of two…who recieves zero child support. I have a support order through the court system from divorce and also a completely separate order through the state. I have been raising the children by myself since my youngest was 3 -they are now 10 and 12. I have never recieved ONE DOLLAR. Nothing. My children also have not seen their father in years..his choice not to come around. I have no idea where he is. The few times the state found him and excuted a wage garnishment-he quit working. That’s my story. Now i’ve been in a relationship for 6 years with a man who has two children and pays over a thousand dollars a month for child support. He is allowed to see his children once a week for 3 hours. The mother of the children lives in a paid off home and her mother provides child care for the children.
“MoM” makes more $$ than dad and she will not bend on the amount of support he is paying,also will not let him see the children more often. In my opinion though the worst thing about the whole situation is that what he pays each month is not going to the children…the mother spends it on plastic surgery…and openly admits this.
So anyway…thats how i see both sides something needs to be done because this is just not right.
This is in response to Melody Ball’s Comment.
This site is dedicated to FAIRNESS. It was established to promote an awareness to the fact that a percentage of the American society is being unfairly abused.
It was also established a a webpage to bring awareness about those who are returning from service to our country and are committing permanent and fatal self inflicted wounds upon themselves because they have become ‘Lost’ in a country whose government has become “Rabbid” over money.
It seeks to promte awareness and reform, so that the ones that have left their comment will have not suffered in vain. To bring change and “EQUAL JUSTICE TO ALL.”
The States are on a money grab. This is because they are BROKE from over 50 years of socialistic ideology and have not exercied good stewardship in their respective legislatures.
The individual and several states spend money like a drunken sailor in port on leave, then come to the paywindow of the FEDERAL TITLE I-D program and say “MORE.”
They do this in a self gratifing attempt to forstall the inevitable; Bankrupcy. Yes, the states are broke, the people are broke and our Congress is BROKE. Morally broke, spiritually broke and BROKE IN EVERY way because they have VIOLATED the laws of nature and of good government.
They have DESTROYED Marriage, Fatherhood, Motherhood and EXPLOITED our children for Money. Lots of it. They take Children and dis-associate them by severing parental rights in juvenile court. They take kids and farm them out for foster care, they take kids by using agents from the CPS and change their names. They do EVRYTHING to DESTROY the foundation of our great American Society: FAMILY.
How long can this Nation, or any other nation survive if we are continued upon the path that we are on?
WE MUST HAVE REFORM and in a big way, or the growing groundswell of discontentment will ERUPT into a veritable EARTHQUAKE of social upheaval.
If you are a Senator, State Legislator, Congressional Representative or House Speaker, consider here what all are saying, especially Ms. Ball, for she speaks from the mouth of babes.
WE WILL NOT GO AWAY UNTIL ARE RIGHTS ARE RESPECTED!
Father Bless.
Im a father of 3 excellent kids i love my kids and it seems like the system is set up for males and females to pay so much support that alot of people that pay child support cant make enough to do things and buy things for there kids its like me i have no problem paying support but shouldnt the person getting the money should be paying taxes on that then the person after they pay there support brings home 165 dollars a week but instead they get rewarded by getting all the tax breaks why we get scewed over by the system thats why you have people out here killing themselves or sitting in jail refuseing to pay what good is this for the kids well lets lock up there mom or dad is that fair to them then the kids suffer and end up getting depressed and having problems in life and school.Like me i have had 2 surguries this year and been of most of the year now i cant even buy my kids christmas or things they need when there with me im sorry but this has to stop and needs fixed ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anti-Family Court should be reformed as well!
This system is an outrage!!!!!!!!!!
I believe in reform. I have a friend who is going through this right now. He got laid off his job and can’t find one for now and now has to go to a mediator after New Years. The woman tricked him and then had his son. She is a known drug addict has gone to prison and has 4 D felonies and 3 agravated misdameanors. They say she is a fit mother,lol. My friend had his son for a year and a half and then they just up and took his son away and gave him back to her. He was never sick when he lived with his father got all As and Bs in school. Now with mom he is always missimng classes and getting Ds and Fs. So yes, she is the most qualified to take care of him. YES, the system needs a overhaul. Fathers have rights but the buearocrates don’t think so.
Let’s Move this forward…and restore the rule of law
The current child support guidelines are entirely confiscatory and not equal for both parents. If the custodial parent chooses not to work, the other parent picks up the difference. That is ridiculous. In addition, there is no accountability for the recipient of child support and the recipient has all the rights to tax deductions for a dependent even if the non-custodial parent is footing most of the bill. Many fathers (in most cases) are forced to pay the mother’s bills (a hidden “alimony” even if never married). It’s an unfair system and many people are under the threat of JAIL if they run in to any financial woes. Most child support offices treat child support payors as criminals. There is only one other system like it — the IRS.
im in complet support of child support reform totaly !!!
in orange count new york judge kiedaisch only takes what the woman wants into consideration.She does not care about what the children want or what is best for them .I am a woman and have seen how the family coury could care less what happens to the man or anyone having to do with the man even thr kids!!!! Life is not black and white ther is gray and everything should be thought about there has to be room for common sense!!!
Please view the website in the link provided? Thanks for helping this cause, it is so important to America’s future in helping protect children from being the subject of war within the family supported by the government violating the federal Constitution…
I came from a background of nothing and had a baby with a high school girlfriend whom I never married. I was 17 and my parents were drunk and abusive when I left home to live with my girlfriend. I did not want to have a baby but she tricked me into thinking that the condoms and birth control did not work. She claimed to be pregnant when she was not so all bets where of and so were the condoms. She left me for an older guy before getting really wild while pregnant with my child, had the baby and went on welfare. This was her plan the whole time according to her friends. Mo DCSE left me homeless and starving at one point while my childs mother neglected my daughter and did not prepare her for life. I was denied contact and often had to fight with her current boyfriends because of the degree of hate that the mother projected to everyone. I have four other wonderful children from the same mother, (my wife) who think I am the greatest dad in the world. My absent daughter is 18 and has 4 other illigitimate siblings and is now in jail after blowing her only chance at going to college. I could have prevented this if the courts would have taken family relationships into consideration instead of making the mother out to be a victim and me into a criminal. Well Mo. DCSE, and my daughters mother, up yours and I hope it burns like acid to see me succeed anyway. You can pay for it now.
Petition says it all.
Child support is killing me.
The child support system in most cases is biased towards the lies of women. This needs to be changed. The men are subject to abuse of power, corruption, and completely ignored as to any rights. Any male who is raped should NEVER have to pay child support. This is outrageous. The men in this country need to unite and change these laws.
My fiance is a victim of paternity fraud and is fighting to be released from child support as we speak. The child is 13 and he just found out he’s not the father. Both the child and my fiance have had their world shattered and their lives stolen from them by this money-hungry wh*re and it’s unfair and unjust.
As a woman, I’m disgusted with women who take good men through this nonsense. It’s a crime and should be punishable as would any other form of fraud be.
The state picks a sucker . . “you played daddy, so now you’ll pay as if you were the real daddy” . . just to protect itself from supporting the child. They should let these innocent men off the hook and force these sl*ts to find the real father or get nothing.
Need Help, In arizona, I am a paralegal in Arizona, My story has been going on for 5 yrs now, My husband has 2 ex wives, one Child from his first and 2 from his second, It has been hell for yrs, We moved from Oregon to go to school and get jobs, and my husband hasnt been able to see his kids since 2006, we have modified his child support three times, and one order went down 300.00 the other one went up 300.00 so we still pay 1900 a month, we dont make this, not even bring home right now. we tried to modify his support again along with visitation,, the Judge said he was worried about the support not visitation and wouldnt evenlook at his vistation modification, since than he was paying his child support threw money grams, and the judge just told him it wasnt through the state, and told my husband 25000 was a gift, than my husband had to go before the grand jury and got 6 felony charges, we had to get a loan that we couldnt afford for 14,000 to keep him out of jail, and now on 2 yrs probation, and if he misses one payment he goes to jail. we now live in a little duplex while the ex are remarried, and living high on the hog. excuse me,,,, but when does it cost 1900 to feed three kids…. we live on 100.00 for food every month,. noodles and beans… and all the money we pay we cant right it off on our taxes, why dont woman have to pay taxes on the income we give them, this isnt fair. I am willing to stand up and fight,, Oh and one more thing i was divorced from my ex he makes 20,000 a month he paid me 130.00 a month for 2 teenage girls, when they were both use to living well. so i see two sides. I went out and got a job, went back to school and now working for the first time in my life, is there any one out there to help me stand up for our rights. Iam going to start here and go to every web site until i get help..
Reform is long overdue.
This reform is needed really bad!
please help this guy needs it
After paying child support for the past eight years was layed off last April. Not being able to pay support for the last eight months the state where I live has thrown me into the Dead Beat Dad catagory. Keep in mind for the past 10 years I have always paid on time and never a penny short ! This means nothing to the state I am still looked upon as a Dead Beat Dad. They have taken away my drivers license, ruined my credit and eventually will threaten to put me in jail. Now there is something very wrong with this method of punishment. Whoever wrote these laws has either never been in this situation or the have their heads up their a**es. I feel terrable for my ex-wife it has caused an extreme hardship for her and my kids. I do collect food stamps and use that to help feed them, it is about all I can do for the time being. Normally I earn 50 to 70 thousand dollars a year so based on what I earn my support is on the high end and has added up fast. I will be paying the deliquent amount untill my kids are in their 30s? I don’t want to be a cry baby but something must be done to change the current support laws not only on the state level but on the national level. Thank god in the last week I have found employment and will start to pay again very soon but that does not change what damage has been done. I just found this site today and will check it daily to see if there is anything I can do to help to cause because SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE !!!!
i want to sign the petition for child support
child support is killing me i have no money to support my other family
I believe child support is unfair. and things need to change
I have been dealing with this for years. I was behind on child support before I knew the child was mine. I have been out of work and im maried and take care of three children. They even to my pain and suffering money when i was in a wreck and not giving even 5 dollars back. This nedds to stop and the child does not know im his father. We need change now.
Fathers should have a pro-choice right, not just women.
I support the reform. Women should not be allowed to hijacked men’s sperm.
Having a child should be both parents’ choice. Take it from a woman who is pro-choice.
reform is really needed and long overdue
Let us all stand united in child support reform….United we stand Divided we fall !!
Its time.
I am a father of a 3 year old. I love my daughter with everything in me. I am a school teacher (we all know teachers don’t make much) and I pay 900.00 a month in child support. That is obscene! I didn’t make my daughter by myself but it seems as if I’m expected to take care of her financially by my self. The system is set up to give the mother every break imaginable from section 8 to daycare assistance to food stamps and I can barely afford my rent every month while the mother keeps her hair and nail done. Child support is necessary due to the dead beats but it seems as if the person who does right by his kids gets the @#*& end of the stick. Something needs to be done to fix this inequity in the child support system. I know I’m not alone in my thinking.
please my family cant have nothing.ex wife has never worked.been paying now for 8 years .and now paying 4 braces!she has a new car,new house.her new husdband owns a busines they got it made .havent seen my 15 year old dughte but 2 times since nov. they dont get in trouble 4 not complying with court order but i do thretend weekly by phone calls and letters please help
We need to change the child support.
Please change the child support laws
I support CHILD SUPPORT REFORM!!!!! I am a Iraq Veteran who is rated 100% disabled through the VA. The IL Child support agency is making me out to be a dead beat!!! I was denied a passport, I have been unable to pay due to my PTSD. I now am having my Social Security taken (Half) to pay child support. I have no problem with that. But today I got a letter stating they are going to frezze my assets. I am tired of the Government Organized Crime. They think the can bully us around squezze us dry, well they are wrong. I am prepared to wage a new war right here at home agnist these agencys and the laws. I am Prepared to stand up and take back our Country. Not just with the child support but our entire govt. This has gone on for far to long now. WE MUST UNITE!!!!!
I want child support reform and I want the mopther of the child to be held accountable for what they spend the money on and for other things such as if they tricked a guy by lying about th epill or they quit there job and cheat and then want child support. They should have to prove they are trying to get a job, use the money for the child, they should lower the mnas child support if the mother gets a job and has benefits. This is complete sexist against men. We are all treated like we ar ethe only ones that are to blame. The say its in the best interest of the child. how is that if the father loses his job because he cant pay for his car or a place to live or medical bills. How does it benefit the child if the father is told to have superviseed visits for no reason because the mother just wants to make it harder for the man.
Everything in the system is designed to push the man away from his child and give the mother everything, including time to manipulate the child to hating there father. At this rate, i might as well just let them arrest me and put me in jail because i cant pay anyways, and if i do, i wiont be able to buy insulin for my diabtes. I will end up in jail, how does that benefit my son. They arrest me cuz i cant pay. Or i become disabled and cant pay.
I should commit a crime just to get into jail so i will get free mediacl coverage.
Its BS like this system that makes people go crazy. My future of going back to school or having a family with someone else i care about impossible. I leaves me with nothing else to strive for in life so why live. Crappy system :(
My ten year old case has been on-going in Alabama - I have recently stepped up my efforts to fight this as a constitutional question - and civil rights issue - not a individual legal issue - we need to have reform in so many areas - back to the basics - get the rocket science out of our live’s! Please! I probably have another good eight years on my case unless we get a miracle!
IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING FOR THIS CHANGE. SOME OF THESE WOMAN REALLY MAKE ME SICK. FOR INSTANCE I WAS IN A STORE AND THE LADY IN FRONT OF ME WAS BUYING ITEMS FOR HERSELF AND SHE PULLED OUT A CHILD SUPPORT CARD TO PAY! GO FIGURE. WERE DOES SHE GET OFF. I SWEAR THE NERVE OF SOME OF THESE B#%$*
How long will this continue?. How many men (families) will be ruined as a result of unfair laws passed by this government who really do not care about the people. Child support reform is way over due. This cannot continue. Having your license suspended, credit ruined, etc.etc is outrageous. This country is completely out of touch with the demands of the people. Men should not continue to be victims of unfair and unconstitutional laws. There is a lot of women who lie about the facts, and laws that are completely biased towards women. What happened to equality?. Everything in this country revolves around MONEY at the expense of the people, and in this case men have their lives ruined. In this country a man can be raped and be forced to pay child support. How is it possible to have something like that happen and except any aspect of this?. Something needs to be done.
am a second wife to a man who has to pay his ex wife and unreasonable amount of child support. My husband and i work hard and still don’t have much while his ex chooses not to work and had a husband who financially supports her. I do NOT understand how a court system can take so much of a mans paycheck and not care if he has a roof over his head for hen his children visit him.
The commonwealth of Virginia’s formula could not be anymore discriminatory and outlandishly unfair. Believe me, I am all about paying my part, which should be half, of the ACTUAL-not grossly over-estimated expenses. Diapers and milk cost the same, so why should a child who has well off parents require as much as ten times, and sometimes more, financial support than a child whose parents are not as fortunate? If that is not blatant discrimination, than I don’t understand the term. I am quite shocked that an attorney has not taken the state to the cleaners on this founding principle alone. The excess money is only going in mom’s pocket, who has no legal responsibility to be held accountable for the actual amount spent per month to care for the child. A reform is greatly needed…I just want a system that is fair to all people.
they say its for the children who are they kidding,this is their big cash cow,time to take our country back and put these as#@^$#s in jail,,,
I have ended up about $31,000 in arrearage over the life of my child support case. I have tried in vain to pay up due to employment problems over the years. I foolishly moved to Florida in 2001. Wages here are 2/3 what they should be. I’m an old trucker and they actually think $6/hr is a reasonable wage here. I have put up with low wages, lived in a camper twice, done without basic necessities most of the time in order to pay my order. Florida found me in contempt last year and jacked my order to $600/mo. That routinely left me with less than $140/wk to live on.
Ohio has told me (where I lived before) that as long as I paid something on the order they’d leave me alone. That is not the case in Florida. If I pay one penny less each week, I’m in violation of the court order. I have been unemployed for 4 months now. I will lose my driver’s license on 2/4/10. This will effectively put me out of the workforce and on the road to the jailhouse.
The website I’ve listed is a link to a great article on the state of the child support system in this country. If you have any interest in fixing this cancer that’s killing our country, then read that article. It’s well worth your time to read.
It’s about time something is done about it.
LET’S MAKE A DIFFERENCE PEOPLE!!! The system is so biased. There should be a set limit to support the children, not basing it on the non-custodial parents’ income. In California, they wanted me to pay almost $1000.00 for 1 kid. Wow. It takes that much to feed the child. My monthly budget on myself is only $500.00 for food. The system is ridiculous. My ex and I are ok, but she always has a reason to obtain money from me like an ATM machine and she threatens me ALWAYS that she will go back to the Child Support Agency. IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED NOW!!!
In reply to J. Sturtevant’s Comment:
John,
Keep fighting for Constitutionally protected rights. They are secured under the
U.S. Constitutions’s Supremacy Clause; Aticle VI Section [2]. Organize locally
and act nationally on this site and others. “…Come together right now, join in
unison for the heartbeat of justice, and liberty in law.” [-PJS].
Other advocates are doing the same, myself included. Numbers, numbers
numbers. Get the word out. Have them sign this Petition. Talk to everyone you
know, call your Seators, Congresspeople, from the greatest to the least, and
write.
There is a HUGH federal FRAUD being perpetrated on the Federal Government,
by states that are NOT in compliance with the FED. RULES. They are out of
control with wild eyed GREED!
Greed to pay their own salaries & retirements. Crooks everywhere, and in
magnificent disguise!
This montrosity of pecuinary gain is costing the Social Security Administration’s
Title IV-D & Title IV-E, GRANT BLOCK FUNDING PROGRAM BILLIONS of U.S.
Dollars.. This Cash Cow corollary RIP-OFF of the TREASURY is the same as if
the an invisable; “Sherriff of Nottingham” was doing the robbing himself!
Blow that Ram’s horn and anounce to all the inhabitants of the land, that YOU and
OTHERS are; “MAD AS HELL AND WE ARE NOT ‘GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!!! ”
Best Regards,
P.J. Southwick.
Please reform Child Support so the family comes first, not the money.
Yes people are waking up to the progressives in congress. We all are waking up to our God given rights. We men are in chains and opression that causes depression.
My children are 29 and 31, I paid 75% of my child support until I got sick. (Depression) I owe $10,700 in back support, but years have passed and now with interest and penalty’s I now owe $58,000 dollars. I went to the family support and asked them to work with me, they said they only represent the one that money is owed too. They can’t negotiate the bill at all. The “X” won’t even budge.
I have to get to the doctors and I can’t legally, my drivers license was taken away, my wife asked that I help out with food in the house, I went to get a fishing licence and a hunting licence, that too has been revoked.
My hands are tied in so many ways. My god given freedoms have been taken away, the laws should be firm, but not to the point of driving a man to suicide.
Government are like robots, no compassion, just follows the unfair laws.
Yes I pray that the laws will follow the Constitution and the bill of rights.
We are being sent to debtors prison and have no way to get out.
How long can the courts continue to enable the destruction of the rights of children and natural parents?
It’s time for reform, it’s time to listen to the American people instead of special interest groups supporting false propaganda.
I’m not sure if anyone else is facing this problem, but Virginia is charging interest on my Florida child support. The agency even told the judge that Florida doesn’t charge interest, but they keep doing it!!!!!
INTEREST ON PAST DUE CHILD SUPPORT
Some states charge interest on past due child support obligations. Interest can be applied to unpaid support at the rate set by state statute. In the relevant states, judgment interest generally is determined in child support matters in the same way it is in other civil judgments. States that charge interest typically begin its accrual on the day the relevant child support payment becomes due and unpaid (Darling v. Gosselin, 589 N.W.2d 192 (N.D. 1999)).
A state’s decision to award interest rests on important public policy considerations. Many states believe that the award of interest encourages obligors to make their child support payments on time. Interest also provides the child a measure of compensation for his or her loss caused by the tardiness of the child support payments. For instance, in Adams v. Adams, (591 So. 2d 430 (Miss. 1992)), the court reasoned that
The use of one’s money by another has value in economic theory and in fact. In our society, this use is frequently compensated by the charging of interest, such charges being imposed variously under the authority of public and privately made law. Charges made on the use of one’s money or forbearance to collect a debt are called interest. The economic value of a supporting spouse’s use of a child’s money, or forbearance to pay for whatever reason, is real and should be compensated via interest. When a supporting spouse fails to timely make child support payments he or she uses the child’s money. (Id., quoting Brand v. Brand, 482 So. 2d 236 (Miss. 1986).)
Numerous courts have upheld the concept of interest being due for unpaid child support (see, e.g., Brown v. Brown, 983 P.2d 1264 (Alaska 1999); Michigan v. Law, 459 Mich. 419, 591 N.W.2d 20 (1999); Baranyk v. McDowell, 589 N.W.2d 192 (N.D.1989); Johnson v. Johnson, 965 S.W.2d 943 (Mo. Ct. App. 1998); Baird v. Lanning, 843 S.W.2d 388 (Mo. Ct. App. 1992); Darling v. Gosselin, 589 N.W.2d 192 (N.D. 1999); Carter v. Carter, 479 S.E.2d 681 (W. Va. 1996)). In Lauderback v. Wadsworth, for example, the court clearly stated that alimony and child support installments are judgments for money, which accrue, along with interest imposed by statute, from the date the payments are due (Lauderback v. Wadsworth, 416 S.E.2d 62 (W. Va. 1992)).
State Code Sections Interest Rate
Alabama Ala. Code § 8-8-10 12%
Alaska Alaska Stat. § 25.27.020(a)(2)(B) 6%
Arizona Ariz. Rev. Stat. Ann. §44-1201(A) 10%
Arkansas Ark. Code Ann. § 9-14-233(a) 10%
California Cal. Civ. Proc. Code § 685.010(a) 10%
Colorado Colo. Rev. Stat. § 14-14-10 (interest)
Colo. Rev. Stat. § 5-12-101 (rate of interest)
4% greater than the statutory rate, or 8% if none set
Connecticut none none
Delaware none none
District of Columbia D.C. Code Ann. § 30-504 and § 28-3302(c) none set
Florida none none
Georgia Ga. Code Ann. § 19-11-7(e) “the legal rate”
Hawaii Haw. Rev. Stat. § 478-3 10%
Idaho Idaho Code Ann. § 28-22-104 5% plus base rate
Illinois 735 ILCS 5/12-109
735 ILCS 5/2-1303 9%
Indiana Ind. Code Ann. § 31-6-6.1-35.5 1.5% per month
Iowa Iowa Code Ann. § 535.3(2) 10%
Kansas Kan. Stat. Ann. § 16-204(e)(2) 12%
Kentucky Ky. Rev. Stat. § 360.040 12%
Louisiana La. Civil Code Ann. art. 2000 and art. 2024, La. Code Civ. Proc. art. 1921 varies from year to year
Maine Me. Rev. Stat. Ann. tit. 14, § 1602-A 15%
Maryland Md. Code Ann., Cts. & Jud. Proc. § 11-107(a) 10%
Massachusetts Mass. Ann. Laws ch. 231, § 6H varies
Michigan 1995 Mich. Public Acts 141 no interest, but annual surcharge of 8% for all past due payments
Minnesota Minn. Stat. Ann. § 518.585 varies
Mississippi Miss. Code Ann. § 75-17-7 set by judge after hearing
Missouri Mo. Ann. Stat. § 454.520 1% per month
Montana Mont. Code Ann. § 25-9-205 and Rule 31 no provision to collect on child support arrearages
Nebraska Neb. Rev. Stat. § 125B.095 10%
Nevada Nev. Rev. Stat. § 99.040 equal to prime rate at largest bank in Nev., plus 2%
New Hampshire N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 336:1 10%
New Jersey N.J. Stat. Ann. § 2A:17-56-20 “within amounts specified by the Federal Dept. of Health and Human Services”
New Mexico N.M. Stat. Ann. § 40-4-7.3 and § 56-8-4 8¾%
New York N.Y. Civ. Prac. L. & R. 5003 and 5004 9%
North Carolina N.C. Gen. Stat. § 24-5(b) “legal rate”
North Dakota N.D. Cert. Code § 28-20-34 12%
Ohio Ohio Rev. Code Ann. § 1343.03(a) 10%
Oklahoma Okla. Stat. Ann. tit. 43, § 114 10%
Oregon Or. Rev. Stat. § 82.010 9%
Pennsylvania Pa. Stat. Ann. § 8101 “at lawful rate”
Rhode Island R.I. Gen. Laws § 9-21-8 12%
South Carolina S.C. Code Ann. § 34-31-20(B) 14%
South Dakota S.D. Codified Laws § 25-7A-14 and § 54-3-16 1% per month
Tennessee Tenn. Code Ann. § 47-14-121 12%
Texas Texas Fam. Code Ann. §§ 157.261 and 157.265 12%
Utah Utah Code Ann. § 15-1-4 “at federal post judgment interest rate, plus 2%”
Vermont Vt. Rules of Appellate Procedure Rule 37 “interest allowed shall be computed by clerk of the superior or district ct.”
Virginia Va. Code Ann. § 20-78.2 “interest rate as established by § 6.1-330.54″
Washington Wash. Rev. Code § 4.56.110(2) 12%
West Virginia W. Va. Code § 56-6-31 10%
Wisconsin Wis. Stat. Ann. § 767.51(5p) 1% per month
Wyoming Wyo. Stat. § 1-16-103 10%
it’s about time
i need assistance in CA, please help
I live in NJ. I always met my support obligation. It was not done via Probation. I simply gave a check every two weeks to my ex- each time I picked up my son.
In April 2009 I lost my job, but still managed to continue with support. In May 2009, she filed an Order To Show Cause trying to suspend my parenting time. She has been actively engaging in Parental Alienation Syndrome since February 2008 when I introduced my son to my girlfriend (now fiancee). During the legal proceedings this past summer, I could not afford to pay the same amount of support and stopped. At the close of the proceedings in August 2009, support was to be managed via Probation with a starting point of August 3. I told them I was unemployed but they failed to garnish that. In September, they notified the IRS to intercept any tax refunds. In October they notified the State Department to suspend and/or not issue/renew a passport. By November, Probation held an enforcement hearing. I was never notified. Probation is not required to send notices by certified mail (return receipt) due to the budget crisis. But without it, there is no proof that they ever sent me a notice to appear or that I actually received it. I have received everything else from them but that. The day of the hearing, I failed to show. Arrears were added to the current support amount ($156 +25 = $181). I make $430 a week in unemployment (no taxes withheld). A bench warrant was ordered and said it would be issued without further notice if 2 more payments were missed. That same day, the ex- filed another motion to suspend my parenting time again. She has continued poisoning my son against me to the point where he said he didn’t want to come down. I haven’t seen or spoken to him since Sept 18, 2009. I filed a cross-motion asking the court to vacate the order of arrears and the bench warrant, asked for a modification of the child support amount based on changed circumstances, etc. The judge denied the modification saying that per Bonanno v. Bonanno (NJ 1950) unemployment is considered temporary and temporary does not warrant a modification. He also said the court could not vacate an order coming from Probation (How is that possible? They can sign an order coming from them but that can’t vacate one?) In December, I received notice that my arrears were being reported to the credit bureaus. On January 18th, I received notice from Motor Vehicles that my DL was suspended after the bench warrant being issued on Jan 5. The judge ruled on the motion on Jan 7th. This past Tues. I was in PJs with my wonderful fiancee eating cookies and drinking milk while watching Monsters Inc. on cable. While watching our movie, the armed debt collectors (aka county sheriff’s officers) came to our door. I was arrested, not even allowed to put on clothes or a jacket, bring my wallet or phone with me. Was transported to my residential county jail, where I waited to be transported to the county jail where the case originally occurred. Processed and treated like a common felon, spent the night in my orange jumpsuit, was eventually transported to the courthouse where I waited in the basement holding cell until mid-afternoon. I will say the bologna and cheese sandwich at the courthouse was much better than the slop at the county jail. Finally went in front of the judge (same judge that ruled on my cross-motion) that he failed to consider the ramifications of “long-term unemployment” which the USDOL categorizes as 27 weeks or longer unemployed. In Dec there are 6.1 million long term unemployed. 40% of the total unemployed. This is the worse recession in history and to rely on 60 year old cases and interpreting one sentence about unemployment being temporary and not warranting modification is wrong. Remember the case they quote was at a time when society was at a point where the husband’s role was to support his family and the wife’s role was to maintain the house and raise the children. Times have changed and there are more dual-income families than single-income. My ex makes $80k a year and I still have to pay close to $700 a month in child support even though I can barely keep a roof over my head. I understand the desire to prosecute dead-beat dads, those with money who simply refuse to pay, but everyone else is being included wrongly in that classification.
I find it really disturbing that I can be arrested and treated like a criminal for something arising out of a civil matter. I find it even more disturbing that the state uses the “for the children” mantra yet the only reason they continue with this child support scam is to line their own pockets. The more child support they collect, the more funding they get from the Feds and that funding finds its way into the pension system of judges, cops, probation officers, and every other government worker involved in this fraud. The current child support system in this country comes from Wisconsin, which took it from the Swedes, who took it from the Soviets. Yep, “from each according to his means, to each according to his means.” Think about that plank of the Communist Manifesto and see how close that relates to the child support calculations of the US. Yes something needs to change, but the entity that is child support in this country is too big. The Declaration of Independence says: “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.” Unfortunately, its going to take a revolution of dynamic proportions to really change this system that for all intents and purposes is Un American.
Best of luck to all the other non-custodial parents being screwed by the system. We have to find a way to fight it and hopefully this grassroots effort can be the start of something big and meaningful.
I support child support reform
I am one of those wrongfully imprisoned due to being unable-and not unwilling to comply with orders for support. Change needs to be made. The time is now-Justice is coming !
In the Watergate Scandal that toppled a power-mad president Tricky Dicky Nixon, yet sadly provided a warning and road map for avoidance for even more power-mad and corrupt presidents in Slick Willie Bill Clinton and now Barry Sotero Hussein Obama, the key to the unraveling of Nixon was “Deep Throat”.
Deep Throat died a few years ago, so was finally revealed to be the Deputy Director of the FBI, who even at his level in the government know that a Whistleblower gets crucified, so Mark Felt remained anonymous during the toppling of the tyrant.
Nonetheless, Deep Throat advised the Washington Post investigative reporters “Follow the Money”.
That Maxim applies to the Divorce and often trumped up, false Domestic Violence industries of Police, Prosecutors, Socialist Workers, and Psycho-logists that like swine feed at the trough of federal Department of Justice “grants” based on inflated numbers of cases.
The Court system as currently set up promotes the Destruction of Families, and far too often relentlessly pursues Fathers until either in jail or in the grave from suicide.
The solution could be that Fathers DEMAND a JURY TRIAL, and learn to present their own case because the lawyers will sell out their client if a father, because their Buddies on the Bar warn them “how the game is played”, and do they want to retain their Bar License, so to pay their McMansion Mortgage and their Lexus Lease? Most Bar members sell out to the BarBarians union, rather than remain loyal to their client.
I sign the petition for Child Support Reform. Something needs to be done about the child support laws, its like they dont even care about the child. My ex wife and I have 50/50 split custody. I am supposed to have our daughter (who is 5 years old) every other weekend, rotation of holidays and extended summers ( 3 months) Honestly though since our divorce my ex could not be bothered with our daughter ( I know hard to fathom, but is the truth) I have had our daughter EVERY weekend (not by my choice, but of course I will take her) I have her EVERY school holiday and my extended summers (including spring break) I pick her up from school every day and have her at least one hour after school. My daughters mother never developed a bond with our child since birth! It was always myself that took care of her and needless to say my daughter only being 5 years old mind you, never wants to go to her mothers and will pitch an absolute fit that she cannot stay with me. I have always been the primary caretaker and nurturer of our daughter and it continues to this day, but due to the courts always believing the mother is the saint and the father is the demon, I was not able to win custodialship. So now even though I have her more than half the time (basically she sleeps at her moms and my ex drops her off at school). So I then pay for what?? For my ex to get new shoes or a new outfit for the weekend?? This bogus law needs to be reformed quickly!!
They need to make these women get off welfare and work for their child support and food stamps and cash. They want to bleed the men dry in the child support system . While these women sit around and make thretening calls about you being put in jail for not paying child support. Well the damn government and economy is so bad jobs are leaving this country. I do not see how putting a person in jail ,especially if he is unemployed but made attempts to pay support, is gonna get the support paid. The whole system is slavery no matter what color you are , and the slavemaster is the government. These women are so brainwashed, why would you settle for an x amount of money that is less than minimum wage and not do anything for yourself. The only person caught up is the child because parents cannot make it work and the government is doing more harm than good for the child by jailing a parent, and giving the other false hopes and no sense of self worth with a minimal sum of money!
something really needs to be done about the way they figure your support order because i pay 116 a week and it does not cost that much per week to raise a child and if you lose your high paying job and end up with a lesser paying job the courts will not lower your payment to accomidate your new salary so then it is even harder for you to keep up with your payments then you get locked up and your license gets suspended now your set back even furhter not to mention what if you lose your job while your locked up for non payment.something has got to be done A.S.A.P.
I support the child support reform. I have been scammed by my divorce attorney in Texas who has harrassed me, threatened me and taken me to court for child support of a baby thats not mine as I did not have any relation with her whatsoever. I had no idea she even thought of me in this light. I am fighting the case and hoping the law would change to give truth the justice instead of being prejudiced towards mothers who have children to get more money.
PLEASE …PLEASE CHANGE THIS INJUST SYSTEM !!!! it has taken my children those years i cant never take back to see them grow up !!! I have been torn to shreds by the system and still they hound me for money leaving me out in the street with no money no car, no license, no passport, no job… if the money went to my children i wouldnt care !!! there mother cares nothing about them other then the money she collects every month… my child support dosent support my childern its supporting my ex, her new husband, and all her bills… that @#$! SOB wont work…brain washes my children while she neglects thei well being…. yet she still demands more of my hard earned money … its never enough for her no matter how much she gets its never enough!!! please change this crap system!! i cannot forget the child support people calling, hounding and threating me to put me in jail… for the benifit of the state and those law makers that want to run my families life and how i make decisions for my family… who ever put them incharge of our families… i am sick of it ! !
Okay, we need to start a PAC regarding this issue, as that is the only way to get it fixed. I am tired of losing 65% of my check, then my ex-wife telling me that I have to find a way to drive 60 miles one way to pick up my kids or I am not able to see them. I work 3 jobs just to make it all work, which really doesn’t leave any time for my kids.
Sign me up for the petition. I’m a father that has two daughters and went through the whole court system that sucks. My x-wife makes more money then I do and I still have to pay a large portion of child support because of an out dated formula. The formula does not make sense. Both parents should pay an equal amount for their kids. These women just use the money for themselves instead of their kids and they say they LOVE them!!!! I go out of my way for my kids and fought to be able to have them at least 48% of the time!
About time fathers started being treated fairly. How does DOR expect you to get a job in this economy especially when they suspend your driver’s license? I was told by a DOR Rep that he would give me my driver’s license back when I got a job but on every application you need a valid driver’s license to be considered!!!
Just came from my support hearing today and altough I make 8hr the judge dismiissed my petition for decreasement and I still have to pay 175 a week if anybody does the math that doesnt leave me much to feed and house myself. I’m all for supporting my child but it has to be fear. The economy is bad and good jobs are hard to find even if you have a college degree imagine if you dont like me. Something must be done there has to be some kind of law past to help with this injustice. Who can we write to get things changed. I’m going to be homeless soon for lack of being able to pay my rent I need help fast. Does anybody out there care, Help help help help many guys out here need help.
When i was 17 I had a child and havnt seen in him in 10 years i now owe around 35,000. my ex intentionally wanted to get pregnant then a month later left me and told me she just wanted a child and nothing to do w me but give her money ) because she had a miscarrage in her last relationship . I wanted to give the child up for adoption to a family that would be financially stable and ready for a child. but she wanted to keep him and even though she wasnt capable of raising him herself. Now ive been manipulated by the system that wouldnt allow me (the father to give my child to a better family). I think the biological father should have the right to give their child up 4 adoption the same as the mother to a stable family if they cant provide 4 them. If a mother wants to keep the child and the father doesnt. he shouldnt have to pay child support!!
Mr. Hutson, ((edited version))
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I am unable to find work and I have been getting screwed by my ex I don’t get to have contact with my child and he hadn’t filed until last year. He dissapeared before and I have no clue on what he could be using it on, I saw her once and it’s definately not going to care for her, I wanted to see her but he moved again and blocked my number… Now I can’t find him and he got me for her entire existence even the time she was with me… I have my other kids to care for and before I was a stay at home mom, I live out in the boonies and there are no jobs here… He waited over 7 years to file, I owe more then tuition for an education, I tried to pay what I could but my spouse had lost his job and I can’t get a job, they don’t take into account anything they should be…
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I FULLY support child support reform.
the laws to incarcerate a person for back childsupport are unconstitutional and violate the 16th arkansas which states..
Arkansas Constitution
16. Imprisonment for debt.
No person shall be imprisoned for debt in any civil action, on mesne or final process, unless in cases of fraud.
As a fascade they use the guise of contempt of court. which ahs been proven in Boykin v. Boykin, 659 So. 2d 664 (Ala. Civ. App. 1995). When the punishment no longer has any coercive effect, it becomes impossible to enforce. Id. “Because it is impossible to coerce that which is beyond a person’s power to perform, once the confinement ceases to have any coercive impact, continued imprisonment for civil contempt constitutes a violation of due process.” Id. Therefore, although one may be guilty of contempt for failing to comply with a court’s order imposing a child support obligation, “imprisonment as a means of coercing payment, may not be imposed if there is shown a present inability to pay.” Ex parte Talbert, 419 So. 2d at 241.”
When “inability to pay” equates to “inability to secure one’s own release from jail,” then “inability to pay” unambiguously becomes an absolute defense to incarceration for civil contempt under both U.S. and Tennessee constitutional law. Leonard, supra, 207 Tenn. at 609, Shillitani, supra, 384 U.S. at 364. For a destitute person, civil contempt is an inappropriate remedy to secure payment of a child support obligation: the party cannot be coerced into paying child support that instant, because she has no funds to pay it. Under such circumstances, incarcerating the appellant, serves no purpose at all.
so all they are doing is creating a debtors prison which by definition is (A debtor prison occurs when a party owes a civil debt to another, that party lacks the income or assets to pay that debt regardless of whether the inability to pay is willful or involuntary, and a court sentences the party to prison with or without a purge clause calling for payment, which the party could not afford to pay in any event. The United States abandoned the practice of creating debtor prisons in the 1830s and 1840s)
we r like dogs we have no rights
My husband has been charged with so much interest on arrearage it is unfair and will never be paid off while his ex wife goes through money like water and the child who is now grown did not even live with her. I agree with child support but i do not agree with a woman being allowed to take advantage of someone to pay for what they want. I have two children I received child support my oldest only got it for 7 years and they wouldn’t go after him for back child support go figure. My husband supports now a family of 6 and we are paying for his ex wife to live it up. They take tax refunds where our family really needs the money because we have four children to take care of. She has none at home and didn’t take care of the one she had but she sure gets to enjoy the money. this unfair system needs to change.
My son is 10, since he was 3, my ex has collected on me and I barely have enough to survive, Id take her back to court, but she is so maniacal that she’d just end up getting more from me. He now lives in Georgia and I cant even see him, they harrass me when I dont have time to call him, I had no money this christmas, and I had to tell him that I tried to call her when they were in my area, they never answered. the day after he left he called me up demanding his present. She is constantly brainwashing him. Making me feel like i am lower than a cockroach. I pay 340 / per month. and if i refuse I go to jail.
If I fight I end up paying more. I am to the point I have no energy left to love my son..after all this messing up our lives…and No One even cares…Sad world we live in….
Love You Kameron!!!
I hope you will forgive me someday..
The corruption and absolute ignorance of the system which is now being used puts me in a state of shock. Okay, here’s an example that I along with countless others share. Every year a non-custodial parent pays hundreds or thousands of dollars to support their children. Last year (2009) I paid $23,000. My ex wife filed her tax return as usual claiming both children, getting some huge refund, while I filed mine and got little of nothing. Why is it okay for a custodial parent to get all the tax credits for a child, when the non-custodial parent supports the same child? Never have I doubted the need for child support. But if you too support a child all year, and have physical payment history proving this, why shouldnt you have the right to a tax credit for this expense? Instead I pay taxes based on my income (which includes all the moneys paid to my ex) which raises my tax percentage. So I made good money last year? so what. I earned. It wasnt given to me. Why is it ok to punish a hard working non-custodial parent? It seems all the media ever talks about is how to get more money out of the non-custodials, but why not try and be more fair to them too? One other point of view might be that if they made some sort of tax credit split rule, where both parents get to split the credit, it may surprise people how many so called “dead beats” come out and pay. I am not supporting the non payers, just feel this could help even the playing table with both parents.
Child Support laws abuse children and families - REFORM NOW!
I fully support this!
You can count on my support!!!