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President Obama; Legislatures
To all who have signed this petition, will yet sign this petition, and to those who wished they could sign this petition;
And,
To the President of these United States, Mr. Barak H. Obama, Members of Congress, The Governors of these 50 several States, and their respective Legislative Representatives.
This is an open letter, although it may seem frank and to the point, it none-the-less is a subject of GROWING concern to ALL Americans.
WE NEED CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT REFORM NOW!!!
The financial cannibalism presently known as: “Statewide Child Support Enforcement” is eating away at the fabric of the American Family. Divorced and re-married individuals, single persons, domestic partners and most of all our Children are suffering from runaway greed. If it is not reigned in, it will become a scourge upon too vast a portion of citizenry resulting in social doom and a further socio/econ decline of the American Nation.
This letter does not concern parents that have walked out on their children and left them destitute.
Over the past few months, as I was engaged in an Appeal in the California Appellate system, on the very same subject, I have been reviewing these Petitions, and do hereby associate with those who have had the courage to tell their personal stories of how a County or Burrough has; “Rail ~Roaded,”… “Steamrolled,” …. Denied DUE PROCESS, and/or otherwise “Herded” hundreds of thousands of honest people into the economic gas chambers known as; “Child Support Enforcement.” Primarily over OUT-OF CONTROL INTEREST/PENALTY structures that keep a payor spouse in hock endlessly.
In each case of support enforcement, the governmental agency receives 50-60% on each and every dollar they collect in an Child Support action. If the interest cannot be halted, that party may well be consumed by the dragon that eventually eats its own tail.
My story is twenty years long. It has traveled up and down the State of California, involved more than 8 Superior Court Judges, one Commissioner, a parade of Attorn~eys, two DCSS’s, four State Attorney Generals, two Appellate Districts, and one California Supreme Court, and visited four counties.
Yet, in all of this litigational fanfare, I have never had any opportunity to tell my part of the story. (I have been through it all, and I do mean all.)
In fact, in the court’s opinion, (Unpublished), the Cal. App. 1/3, (7/2009), Acknowledged my claim that the lower court had violated my Due Process*. However, it refused to send my case back for a rehearing or interpret my appeal as a writ, as I had requested.
Why??
One answer. MONEY. State Funds are supplied through the Department of H.E.W., H.H.S. and then down to the state dole payout through what is known as: Title IV-D BLOCK GRANT FUNDING, coming under the Social Security Administration defined under U.S.C Title 42: Section 454, 651 & 666, Et Seq. You can look them up online or go to any County Law Library.
If they would give me a chance to submit my documents and give me a chance to be heard they will know the real truth. Extrinsic Fraud on a court of law.
But, that might make the county liable to pay back the Feds for failing to follow State Mandated Laws adapted by the Legislatures from the federal rules.
Regardless of the details, The States have enacted laws that places too many people on the streets, in emotional and economic straits, and deprives them of an equal application of the law. Not to mention EQUAL PROTECTION.
In my latest go round, I had to go against four A.G.s, defending a judgment that was obtained through fraud on two courts. I had to do all of the research, the typing of the briefs, printing and appeared in pro-per in the California Supreme Court facing a three panel Court without any assistance from ANY governmental Agency, while both my ex-wife and the county DCSS DEFAULTED on their response Briefs, and in violation of California Rules of Court.
All of this in Denial of the “Elkins Family Law Task Forces’ ” admonitions NOT to deny a ‘Self~Represented~Litigant” A Right to be heard. Hippocrates! One and All!
They VIOLATE their oaths of office and their Judicial Cannons. Their Robes are Stained with with the uglyness and disrespect of PREJUDICE.
And they do it to continue the payouts from the feds.
Mr. President and members of Congress, will you PLEASE consider Child Support Reform? We are not asking you to cut kids off. We are asking you to reign in out of control Family Law Courts.
If thou kill the goose that layeth the golden egg, from whence shalt thou eat thy breakfast? How shalt thy city be defensed, and how shalt the people envision the future?
Then on the morrow, what shalt thou tell unto the orphans who have no Fathers, (and Mothers), to lead them into adulthood and into the strength and will of a unified nation and people?
Respectfully Yours,
Paul
* Due Process is a Guaranteed Right Protected by the Supremacy Clause and the United States Constitution.
Please take a moment and SIGN for Child Support Reform. You do not have to be directly involved in the Child Support System to Sign this Petition. Yet, we are all apart of the System; if someones’ U.S. Constitutional Rights are being violated, you are being violated. How much more Government interference are you able to put up with? Presently, the Children are always the losers; relationships are being ruined, thousands go to jail and thousands commit suicide each year! PLEASE USE THE COMMENT FORM TO SIGN LOCATED AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE; Thank You!
“The more of us we have, the more hope we have and hope is the commodity we need; RIGHT NOW!”
I’m not afraid and will fight the good fight that deadbeats and an obvious innefficiant court system monster till its death.
I am a mom paying support. My son decided to live with his dad and they wouldn’t split the kids unless a Jury did it. I can’t afford a jury trial but the ex is using my 401K that he will get in the divorce to take the kids. He never had a job longer than 2 years and has several drug convictions. I have a clean record. This is a nightmare and i understand why people kill themselves over this. I owe 9K in taxes for 2009. He got 6K back!
The system is very flawed. And is very much in need of reform. Not just for those that pay but for those that recieve as well.
My kids are grown and I have been disabled since 2000. The company I worked for downsized and I lost my job in 1993 (my child support was up to date) and I was unable to find work to support my children and myself. I became severely depressed and was unable to work for months at a time but kept trying. My ex was not willing to take a cut. I didnt know what to do so I began drinking heavily to forget about this problem. Which I was slowly committing suicide. I heard nothing from the child support from 1993 until 2007. I owed $65,000. $40,000 of this was interest and they wanted me in court . I was ordered to pay $200 dollars a month or go to jail. Every month they apply $230 some odd dollars in interest to my debt which is more than the payment. One bad thing about all this is my children could use my help now and once again because of this issue I am unable to help my children. Why can’t I get some justice? It kinda looks like I will go to my grave trying to pay this debt off.My children were with me and my parents anytime they were not in school and my parents paid for their school supplies, clothes and other things they needed.
Fathers being locked down because of lay_offs,still there is no jobs,yet while incarcerated,arrearages constantly pile up ,purge out,then return to court in thirty days after release,warrants issued for court cost,its an ongoing process,wheres my freedom ???????peace of mind !!!!! I will never be caught up on my own bills,and watch crime steady rise ..how do you start over when your released ,no home,job,or respect for the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
It is crap that custodinal parents are not held accountable.
I think its a bunch of crap that they basis the amount you have to pay off of your gross income, when in fact we do not receive the full gross income to live off of. I also think its a bunch of crap that if you re-marry they take in account your spouses income as well. I think it a bunch of crap that they dont allow the person paying chid support to claim the children as deductions on your tax return since the amount you pay is based on the gross.
Admin Response: On the flip side, if the ex re-marries, they ‘Do Not’ take into account their additional income….
I suffered from a great deal of depression when I was a kid my only way till to deal with my problem so I thought was my love for females well long story short when the smoke cleared I had sixteen kids. I live in indiana and I have ten child support cases at 35 dollars a week a child that’s 1400 a month 1750 if the month has a five week period. I can’t afford this but my kids want for nothing they have what they need but since I can’t pay what the courts want they keep locking me up but the messed up part is the money keeps adding up even when I’m locked up and I owe so much because of the fact that the money don’t stop adding up. If the whole world is in a economic funk. How can they lock me up when there’s no jobs. I try to show my kids that jail is no place for anyone so I try to do things legit but its really pushing me to come up with ways make cash fast being that all I seem to go to jail for is child support. Listen it takes more then money to raise kids like spending time listening to there problems being there for advice putting me in jail takes this away from them. While I’m locked up no child support gets paid and my kids get they advice from the streets just like I did.
Please fix this government cas cow. I have read so many heartbreaking cases and seen people that I know suffer due to this crooked agency. Justice has fallen in the streets.
jy
There needs to be something done to help the people caught up in the child support NIGHTMARE! Taking away their drivers license and putting them in jail for non support does not in anyway help anyone in the situation! All is does is break up famiilies.
It is a vicious cycle that the system has them going through. If they have a felony, they can’t get a job, without a job, they can’t pay child supprt. Then, they get their drivers license taken away and they can’t get a job because they can’t go to work. Around and around we go. There needs to be jobs and programs to help people like this.
What is wrong with this system anyway? No one can get anyone in any office to answer a phone calls. They always say they will return your call and don’t. But, iif they were to call you, You had better be there to answer!
Please pass this on and get everyone you know to sign this petition. Please Not every dead beat dad as they are labeled are just NOT paying their child support, they honestly don’t have a way and the system sets them up for failure to begin with!
Is it possible to file charges of purjury against a DCSS attorney? If so, where do I start
you know i have been caught up in this child support nightmare for a few years now. it seems that all the system is so interested in is teaching a child that money is everything well its not. im not a well off person n i do the best i can , but to me the most inportant thing to teach a child is to be there self to learn how to live when you dont have. not pay me money or go to jail. there is so much more to raising a child than just money even if you r seperated but does the system look at that???? H3LL NO
20 years ago I went through a divorce. I was suffering from PTSD resulting from my military experience and didn’t know it. I was self medicating with drugs and alcohol and out of a job. My ex-wife stated that if I stayed away, she would not seek child support. Most likely she thought she’s never get any money and at the time I thought it would be best for my son. I went through 3 rehaps and years of AA meeting before I was finally able to free myself from drugs and alcohol. Later, I went back to college received a degree and worked for Intel. However, after dealing with 30 years of PTSD triggers and not being able to medicate myself, I finally broke down and went on disability. When my son turned 18 I brought him out to California and showed him the sights and gave him a car and a wad of cash to get back to Illinois. Later I was able to get him into college, tuition free with a $900 stipend every month. He had 4 years of college handed to him on a silver platter, all together a package worth over $80,000. He had a son but by this time his mother alienated him from me and didn’t want me to see my grandson. He was married to the woman who had my grandson so I hired a lawyer in Missouri to tell the mother and my son that I would seek visitation through the court if an agreement couldn’t be reached. My son is 34 lives in Illinois with his mother, 3 weeks after the letter was sent, I receive a petition for back child support for $56,000 from my ex-wife. In 20 years, she has never said nothing, no court order or anything. I was never served anything. This wasn’t about child support, she uses the court for vengeance because I wanted to see my grandson. She wants to alienate my grandson just like she did with my son, and the courts willingly provide her with a vehicle to do. I had a lawyer pressuring me into settling because it wasn’t worth her time to make another court appearance. And she told me she could get my ex-wife to settle for a lump sum cash amount. So, I agreed, and I told her, if she didn’t get my ex-wife to settle I would be forced to file bankruptcy. I had borrowed heavily to remodel my house and could not afford to pay any back child support. If I had known that I owed that amount, I would have never borrowed any money in the first place. Now I am forced to file for bankruptcy and I won’t be able to keep my house. There needs to be some changes in the law, you should not be allowed to wait 20 years, not filing anything with the courts or saying a word to anyone, then one day just decide to file. This is totally insane and grossly unfair.
bernard pearson, on september 8, 2010 i agree with everybody on this petition, because im on that boat to.i really do think something needs to be done about this matter,i think the indiana system is a contradictory of wat they say, far as locking you up while having a job and thats the whole purpose of getting the job to pay child support.judges telling you what to pay without vewing your case, when its based on your income,thats not right.i have kids that understands it aint all about the money, its the love and guidance and having there dads and moms around to protect them and not letting the streets pull them astray.and also locking you up with rapists and murderers and hard core criminals behind this child support .ididnt committ no crimes,its hard times and im trying to do the best i can and if i didnt care about my kids i wouldnt be on this petition,im just tired of going to jail behind this so, MR.PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, PLEASE CONSIDER CHILD SUPPORT REFORM. YOURS TRULY
I feel that the government needs a complete evaluation. They must take care of home before trying to rectify other places and their barbaric actions. Now, all of these troops coming back home, to what? Greed, economy downs, and no jobs. I pray that the courts stay out of domestic issues as what goes on in a family. There many instances that the Family court laws are manipulated for gain, and usually it isn’t for the benefit of the child. It’s sad.
I just talked to an old friend who had cancer almost died and lost his compnay. When he got out of the hospital he had to serve six month in jail still very sick for back child support he couldn’t pay while in the hospital.
SMITH COUNTY,TEXAS should be first for reform,I assure you they wreck homes,make people move in the salvation army,make people sell their homes,lose their jobs by imprisoning them undufully,and the majority of the funds the state keeps.This county is a travesty to the fullest,with JUDGE CAROL CLARK as the head robber.ALL they want to do is make money for the county and state.I feel for people who put burdens on others that they themselves wouldn’t bear,as the GOOD LORD will surely do the same to them.
It is hard out here for men who want to support there kids and cant because of the economy.The law is very bia’s when it comes to men and women rights.The system is a no win situation in any case for a man.The bible is our guide for the world, but it states that women have no power, but the courts goes against what the bible speaks on. Corithians.
True and in Proverbs a Mother warns her son, the King to never give his power to a woman… Look at the results and the mess that men, women and children find themselves in today. Family structure has been dissolved and moral values are totally twisted for so many… To include the Court System!
I agree there needs to be change NOW! I had custody of my three daughters for the past 11 yrs. Due to the fact that the ex was out partying using drugs and basically left the parenting to me. The ex-wife was ordered to pay 27.00 in child support for the 3 monthly. I’ve always worked and supported them. Their mother wouldn’t even pay what she was ordered. I kept track and documented every visit that was missed, how she didn’t take care of them when she did visit with them. 2 are over age and the youngest decided to move with her mother this past summer. Now i’m attacked with a child support judgement that is outrageous! Over a thousand dollars a month! Where’s the equality? Doesn’t her mother have to share the cost? No instead they want me to pay for her to sit at home and do nothing and live off of my hard earned money! I’m not saying I shouldn’t pay but I have a home and a wife and another son that I need to support as well. WE NEED REFORM NOW!!
My name is Cameus and I like most fathers am frustrated with a system that is design form its very core to be unfair. I am to a point where I can’t even afford to take my three year old girl to the movies due to an overbearing child support. I own a small production company I feel compelled to do a full length documentary on this subject. Please you may contact me anytime.
Thanks
Wayne county in Michigan is so corrupt, they don’t care about people, only the money….
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I have Been Dealing with these child support Issues since 2003. This definitly needs to be streightened out…
I wrote in a while back and told some of my story to you, i wanted to add this, my lawyer is a college teacher at O.S.U, Oklahoma State University, Dr Marshall. she had took my case and told me that it should be no problem for them to work with us, i was in jail for this so called child support, the first hearing, the judge ask if i wanted a hearing with jurors, i said yes, and she said i needed 2 or 3 hundred dollars, right then, now remember i am in jail, wearing orange, i cant get that money while i am in jail, she then said that i could be tried by a judge instead and sentenced, wow, the next time i came to court, i was still in jail, the dhs attorney agreed to let me out if i agreed to pay them 750.00 month, now all my kids work for me at my company, in other words, they are grown, child support said i owed back support, anyway my lawyer informed me of the agreement made with thier lawyer ms burton, i was told to sign so that i could get out , and save my company and fight this out of jail, i signed, that was a big mistake, because the judge ask me if this was my signiture and was i willing to pay this amuont monthly, i said yes if i get out today, and he said yes you are getting out today, when he finished signing the release the dhs attorney ms burton said that she wanted me to stay in jail, and the judge give me another bond amount, and keep me in jail, now let me ask you this, do you think i would have agreed to sign that if i was going to stay in jail???????????? this people have to stop playing God, they are abusing the system for their own selfish reasons, Pray for them and the lost, Because they will Reap what they Sow, oh yeah, the day i was sentenced i had already been there in jail for five months and they gave me ten more months in jail for what money?????? 15 months, i stayed 14 of the 15 because they felt bad my wife was divorcing me, and had filed the paper work on the 13 month of my stay in jail. wow. I love you Guys and all the my enemies, bless those that are with you God, and help us help the ones that lost.
I agree…
Revamp the system. There are too many men who can’t afford to live.
The system is broke needs fixed badly a lot of good people are criminals do to this system that do nothing wrong except lost there job this is wrong
Stop forcing fathers to finance the stealing of their own children…
i think that if the kids are out of school and over 18 and working and living on their OWN then we should have not to keep paying even if we (the payer) were behind !! i mean damn cant we try and make ends meet at our own homes without givin more money to GROWN ASS kids !!
I was divorce by the recession and left town to seek work when my divorce was final i was order to pay support. It has been two years since i was employed and everytime i get a little hustle money to save for a school it is garnish out of the bank by child support. when will the government service me as a citizen who has been affected by the economy. why should big business be giving a chance to reposition their wealth thur government loans and assistance. why is woman offered so much in advantage of government support ‘while i as a man get nothing. i voted for equal rights for woman and loose my rights as a man. even so if i can get my income return to me without being garnish i can re-establish myself. what obama focus on big business, michelle focus on woman rights, tell me who focusing on me the male tax voter. It’s true without millions of male tax payers back on the equalibrium of finacial stablity the government will never began to show progress an nor will our economy. I say this one thing view the male status on who purcahse,spend, and travel then maybe the obama administration will put me on the for front for finacial rehabilitation
I’m a honest father to my children and I was put up for chold support
for reason, and I still do for my children because they still need. I lose 2 of my homes
1 I had to move because I could not afford my home, then I moved to a apartment and I
I was maintaining it until they raised the child support so now I’m staying with my
parents and I lose everything. Something really needs to be done about this. And I agree.
WIFE HAD CHILD BY ANOTHER MAN WHILE WE WERE MARRIED AND LIVING TOGETHER. SHE WENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES AND GOT A WELFARE APARTMENT CLAIMING ABUSE. I MOVED OUT OF STATE FOR 8 YEARS TO STAY OUT OF TROUBLE WITH HER. I ALWAYS SENT MONEY EVERY MONTH. VISITED KIDS TWICE A YEAR. KIDS STAYED WITH ME DURING SUMMER AND CHRISTMAS. MOVED BACK HOME TO SC IN 1997 AND FOUND OUT THRU STREET TALK THAT WIFE HAD DIVORCED ME BACK IN 1991 THRU SOCIAL SERVICES WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE.(WIFE HAD ADDRESS AND PAGER NUMBER CONSTANTLY STAYING IN TOUCH WITH ME TELLING ME WHAT THE KIDS NEEDED. WE WERE NOT ON GOOD SPEAKING TERMS AFTER I MOVED BACK HOME BUT I STILL TOOK CARE OF MY KIDS FOR THE NEXT 13 YEARS. NOW EXWIFE LOST JOB AND GOES TO COURT AND SAYS NEVER RECEIVED CHILD SUPPORT. COURT D.A. DRAWS UP NEW CHILD SUPPORT GARNISHED PAYCHECK. WAS ONLY EMPLOYED WITH LOCAL HOSPITAL FOR 5 WEEKS. CALLED CLERK OF COURT TO FIND OUT WHY ALL THIS WAS GOING ON AND CLERK OF COURT SNUBBED ME AND TOLD ME TO CALL CHILD ENFORCEMENT IN THE COUNTY WHERE I WORKED TO GET INFO. CALLED CHILD ENFORCEMENT IN THE COUNTY WHERE I WORKED AND INSTEAD OF GIVING ME INFORMATION ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND WHY CHILD ENFORCEMENT TOLD A STRAIGHT OUT LIE AND TOLD ME THAT I HAD A BENCH WARRANT OUT ON ME AND THAT I SHOULD GET AN ATTORNEY. CALLED HOSPITAL JOB AND ASKED FOR TIME OFF TO RECTIFY THE SITUIATION AND HOSPITAL TOLD ME NOT TO COME BACK ONTO HOSPITAL PROPERTY SO NOW OUT OF JOB. HAVE A NEW WIFE OF 12 YEARS AND AN 8 YEAR OLD TO FEED. TOTAL CORRUPTION OF THE COURT SYSTEM WAITING 20 YEARS TO SAY THEY COULD NOT FIND ME WHEN I WAS RIGHT HERE 12 MILES DOWN THE ROAD. COURTS GETTING PAID MONEY FOR NOT DOING THEIR JOBS AND DEPARTMENT OF SOICAL SERVICES HIRES PEOPLE THAT CAN NOT READ. EVERYTHING IS ABOUT GOVERNMENT SURVIVING THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS BY WHATEVER MEANS THEY CAN. HOW IN THE WORLD CAN THE GOVERNMENT GET ON NATIONAL TV AND SAY THAT UNLESS THEY PUT MONIES INTO THE AMERICAN SYSTEM THE COUNTRY WILL BE BROKE AND NO ONE GOES TO JAIL FOR THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS WHICH TO POOR PEOPLE IS THE EQUIVALENT TO “THE GREAT DEPRESSION”. HOW MANY PEOPLE AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER MAIL LETTERS BY REGULAR MAIL AND THE PARTY THEY MAIL THE LETTER TO DOES NOT GET THE LETTER? HOW CAN A COURT SYSTEM SERVE YOU THOUGH THE REGULAR MAIL AND SAY YOU WERE SERVED AND ITS LEGAL BUT IF YOU SAY YOU SENT THE MONEY YOU MUST PROVE YOU SENT IT OR PAY AGAIN. AMERCAN GOVERNMENT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF “THE SOPRANOS” WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS.
i think the child support system is so backwards…its sad. Me and my ex decided to move on with our lives and because i decided to date someone else she put me on child support. Now i havent been working since July 2008. I just found a job at a fast food restaurant because thats the only place hiring where i stay in NC. i moved here from VA because i couldnt find a job at all after going on countless interviews, filling out a ton of apps online and in person and i didnt want to get locked up so i moved to hopefully find a job. Now i just started working and i had to bond myself out of jail in VA this past sunday for non payment. Mind u a payment was made when i got my second paycheck which ironically was after i got outta jail. Whats so sad is the job is not giving me alot of hours because of the workers they already have and its hard enough for me to survive. At times ive gone days without eating…sleeping at friends houses and even on the streets at times. Im just starting to get my life back together and now there locking me up? Now im not the most perfect person and ive tried to turn my life around from doing illegal things to get money but as time goes on its like thats the only hope for me…Oh yeah i lost my job from being locked up this weekend because i missed days from work without notice since by the time they let me use the phone my job was closed…how do u expect me to have a life and not be out here knockin people over the head just to eat and feed myself and my family?
God knows change will come it will, it iwill with tears in my heart for all good fathers and mothers effected by one of the most unfair systems in US history we shall overcome!!!! in JESUE name amen :-)
WE NEED CHANGE FAST!
I have dealt with child support in 2 states because I have children through both previous marriages. I have only had my children through marriage and never abandoned them. I have been and still going through the ringer with child support because without any interaction from my ex wives it is unnecessarily harsh and unjust. Since I ended both my marriages, my ex’s are already somewhat vindictive and use a system already heavy-handed to make my life a living hell. I have been locked in jail where it was set as a purge (meaning someone better raise the money or I stay in) forcing my current family and loved ones to raise money (by the way while you’re in the tab and interest continue) to pay a bill they are not obligated to pay. I have been encarcerated several times and I have maintained copies to prove that I have always provided most if not all of the unreasonable amounts I’ve been ordered to over 12 years. The states provide legal aid for the custodial parent but not the non-custodial(the one that pays child support) and if there’s a person who can’t afford an attorney it would be the one that pays child support. The state of Georgia allows child support to suspend your driver’s license if you fall into arrears which is extremely counter-productive. If your driver’s license is suspended…this hurts your chances of keeping or finding employment to pay your obligations. Levy’s placed on homes and bank accounts. I haven’t had a bank account and forced to live like a fugitive just to survive and since they allow a modification (which only benefits the mother because they never allow it to go down and you’re lucky if they allow it to stay the same) every 3 years. The Custodial parent uses a lawyer who was given to them by the state to use the many gray areas to get increases that they are not otherwise entitled and leaving us to defend ourselves because we can’t afford a $3000 retainer to stop it. The laws on child support allow them to base child support based on the “ability to pay”. You should not allow people to make up imaginary numbers because you believe some people intentionally make less to pay less child support. This hurts the honest people which are much more than believed. Georgia recently changed their laws to mask a good intent. They are now figuring in the mother’s income as well where before it was only the father’s income. Sounds better but look further. It still allows you base child support on ability to pay and not only actual income. They’ve added that you can’t affect a prior child support order with subsequent orders but you can if it’s the other way around. Meaning if you have other child support obligations that you can’t lower a pre-existing order because it is believed that we are making more babies to lower our responsibilities. If 20% of your income goes to a custodial parent and now with another you pay 18% to two custodial parent that is not lowering it for the non-custodial parent. In this example, while that custodial parent does receive less $$ the non-custodial is now paying 36% of their income to child support which is more and not less. That’s simple math and something like this should never have been passed into law. It actually hurts the other children that are entitled to equal child support. Georgia now allows custodial parents to include “additional child obligations” which I learned the hard way that to lawyers and courts could mean anything that lawyer sees fit to put in there and make it sound good and this helps them raise the child support even further when you’re income is not enough. Non-custodial parents should pay for their obligations but please make laws with restraints to keep it reasonable and keep it out of control of vindictive people or attorneys or state institutions from taking advantage of running innocent people out of a future, into jail, or to murder/suicide as no other alternatives. Use actual numbers and don’t give judges/lawyers abilities to make their own. Taking away business/driver’s license is completely counter-productive and further hinders a person’s ability to pay obligations. Leave people’s home/vehicles/bank accounts alone again counter-porductive and forces people into the a very scary lifestyle. The garnishments from employment and federal tax returns is very efficient and harsh enough and ensure payment of most if not all child support. Putting a person in jail is excessive to me and I think also this one should be taken away but if it is still allowed than you should take away the purge and giving him/her an actual jail sentence and be reasonable that people in jail can not pay child support while in jail so do not allow them to accumulate further debt while in jail. Nobody is asking for a get out of jail free card just a chance to live like normal human beings. I have been without bank account or anything in my name and living with family members and keeping nothing that I own in my name for fear of losing it. I am a US Vet who served 8 years and was shot and injured in Iraq serving my country but here I live as a fugitive because of child support. We have to fix this and I pray this reaches eyes that need to see this.
We need child support reform fast. To many fathers are being persecuted. The economey is so bad and so many people out of a job. How can one pay the same child support they were paying when they had a job? In the state of Georgia, if your unwed, the father hasn’t a chance. The only right he has is to pay child support. People are led to believe if you go through the process called legitimization you have the right to have visitation…but that only means the child has the right to inherit and gives the judge more of an incentive to allow the father to have visitation. Under their law the father has no rights outside of paying child support…but the child should have the right to have a father. This father pays child support and loves his son. He wants to be part of his life but the mother uses the system. How can the system deny the father and child to have a relationship? Children need their fathers!! I know there are dead beat dads but there are dead beat mothers that are doing things that aren’t fair to the children or the fathers that want to be part of their childs life! She can’t have the father so she makes the child and father pay by not having a relationship. There’s a special place reserved in hell for this kind of person and the system!!
MR.PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, PLEASE CONSIDER CHILD SUPPORT REFORM.
wayne county mi…they are so bad its just to much to handle.im ready to give up.they have taken everything…my marrage of 20 years ripped my family apart..i have nothing left.
thank god for this.i hope this reform works cuz im at the end of my rope!
NOTE: This is an Additional Comment from a previous Signature.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME VISITING THIS SITE.I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY PERSON GOING THOUGH HELL. HONESTLY,I MADE A PAYMENT ON A FRIDAY COURT ORDERD. HAD MY CDL LICENSE SUSPENED ON A MONDAY.NOT TO MENTION AT THE TIME I HAD AN IRS LEVY ON ME 25% OF MY INCOME.THE COURTS DID NOT TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.WAIT.IAM NOT DONE…HAD THE CHILD SUPPORT MODIFIED.BUT THE STATE TURN AROUND AND STARTED KEEPING THE MONEY STATING THAT I NOW OWE THE STATE……. TURNING MYSELF IN ON SUNDAY CAUSE I NOW HAVE A WARRENT.TRY GETTING A JOB WITH A WARRENT .NOT EVEN AS A TRUCK DRIVER
Hello everyone I am glad to see something like this going on. My case is fairly new and is an interstate matter between CO and TN. But let me first input this information, I found myself over seven years ago caught in my own stupidity. I caught a need to “clean up my act,” soon after I had my son and by mistake gave permanent custody to my mother(at the time I thought it was the best thing to do), so that I could handle my affairs. It was a verbal statement that she would give custody back to me as soon as I got everything in order and got back on my feet. Of course I would not be posting today if it worked out as planned. She refused soon after I settled everything to let me see or even speak to my son. So for 6 and a half years I have had less than six months contact with my son. Even when I did have contact it was on the premise that I would not refer to myself as “mom,” but have him call me by my family name.
I had previously inquired about what it would take to reverse this action and had to live with my mothers terms because I was unable to pay the upfront retainer (2,500-5,000), even though to a court that is not an excuse. So I just pushed forward firguring that I needed to take this time to secure myself, not only to be able to afford the battle but also to prove that I am stable. I got back into school in 06 earned a medical tech degree, went back to school in 07 and next year will be finished with my bachelors degree in Business Health Admin.
Now to my reason for posting here; in Aug of 2010 about 5 days before my 29th birthday I was served with child supprt papers in TN. I was excited at first thinking not only will they get money(I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PAYING REASONABLE SUPPORT), but I will be able to establish visitation or custody. Well I thought wrong, unfortunetly when it comes to interstate matters only child supprt can be enforced (money only matters).
I had lost my full time job in March, due to absences at work for health reassons (not the flu, but I have a necrotic gallbladder that I can not afford to have taken out because I did/do not have insurance). So by Aug I had only secured a PRN medical job perhaps 10-15 hrs a month. Now just a reminder I was still taking full time credits at school. When my child supprt orders were calculated (at 285 + 100 back pay a month, back pay adding up to 20,000+ total) they were caluculated as if I was working full-time hours at minium wage; even though I had proof other-wise. They said it was to influence me to go part-time with school and put more focus on work (but if I had a million more children or was a leach on the system they would have made considerations). Even though I also had proof that I was turning in applications weekly. To add to this rediculous situation, I am not entitled to the calculation of caretaker and mother (me) income; nor care-taker, father, and mother income. She does not have to prove that she is equally being responsible for my son (which she has been on assistance since she has had custody). Nor does the father in CO income or payments count. He was ordered to pay the minium with no back-support two three years ago. CO says that his case or income does not affect my payments because the support orders were filed seperately. So in reality she could eventually get equal and double amount in child-support.
I am working 5 PRN medical jobs, plus a full time job working three tweleves (recently aquired), still full time student. I have moved in a low rent (400), but hopefully still within standards for CPS I could find. My biggest fear in my inability to keep up with all of this is that I will not be able to get custody of my son and that I will have an issue with child support that will cause me to default on my school loans. Mean while my mother is in her fifty’s does not work and because she was going to get cut off from state aid went back to school (in my opinion creating a bigger debt for society to pay). She has had a child molester living with her to pay her bills (which in CO is not illegal as long as he is not on parole or probation) for over the past three years. Where is my right to the pursuit of life, liberty, and justice?
My focus for the past 6-7 years has been to better myself, in the hopes it would bring me closer to getting my son and now I am being told my value does not exceed being a bank. TN child support office is not interested in my struggle, what I am doing on the custody end, nor the molester (a felnoy offender) living with my son, nor the fact that my mother has not had a job in at least five years, nor the fact that father is not paying what they are asking me to pay, or the fact that (even though they have the misconception that it will) his payments does not affect my case, nor the fact that the requesting state (CO) is not asking for the same amount in back child support that they are. Oh and not let me forget my mother was ordered to pay child support when she sent my younger sister away and she never paid it. My sister was 22-23 when they finely got her taxes garnished.
My child support attorney says there is nothing I can do and my custody attorney says that it will take at least a year of re-unification (re-unification because my mother has kept my son from me for so long that I have to be slowly re-introduce into his life) before I “may” get custody of him. I do not understand how the law can be designed to treat people in numbers and not in individual situtations. Again where is my right to the pursuit of life, liberty, and justice. I have no problem paying, I just think it should be an amount that considers the whole situtation.
If anyone knows what and if there is some-thing I am over looking that doesn’t create another bill for me feel free to email me (ivysline@gmail.com) and wish me luck. My mother denied mediation for custody so my day before a judge is at the end of April.
Your Truely,
Frustrated but Hopeful
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i have lost the dignity and lost everything i own because of the friend of the court and because i couldn,t pay my arrears went up and the intrest they charge made it impossible to catch up, and if that wasnt enough they threw me in jail slapped a felony record on me and now no one will hire me becuase of that, because you owe money
Mr president these times are hard and we need to remove this part of the goverment the friend of the court has hurt more lives than you could image, and now with this economy the way it is we are even more behind on our payments help us and please help us now
agreed!
hello mr. president…. i am not paying child support my fiance is and it is affecting me too.. u see my fiance is in jail for felony child support. he cant pay when he is sitting in jail. he never gets to see the children he is paying on and it is affecting the family we have created. now we have to suffer because the friend of the court want him to appear at court every month to every other month. and he cant afford to which means if you dont make it to court you get a warrent… the need to figure out what they are doing in wayne county they are ruining peoples lives. and breaking up peoples families!!!!! just becasue he cant oay doesnt mean he doesnt love his kids but sreiously it doesnt cost 300 dollars a month to raise 1 child… im raising my children with no income and no father.. they should be able to tooo!!!! we need this takin care of.. and they shouldnt put people in prison for childsupport it is a non-violent crime save the space for murderers and baby rapers really….. we all need to stand together!!!! not all fathers are dead beats they just got screwed by friend of the court!!!!!!! i hope my vote counts!!!!!
Dont know if i can bear it.
my name is kathy, and i was living in jersey, and had my kids taken away bcuz i was an addict, went to rehab, got clean, and was in an abusive relationship. i was ordered to pay child spprt even tho my babys father was not. he didnt have custody of her either! i went to jail a few times bcuz of it, even tho i was actively lookin for work. i was traumatized being in jail cuz i had 2 other children that i wasnt capable of seeing while i was locked up. i literrally was paralyzed by fear, never leaving the house, for fear that i would b locked up agn. bergen county, nj is not fair with respects to the child sprt. i still have a warrant over my head, cuz i couldnt “KEEP UP” WITH THE PAYMENTS! i dont think it was fair that i was the ONLY ONE ORDERED TO PAY! I AM NOW IN ANOTHER STATE, MISSING MY OTHER 2 KIDS CUZ IM TOOO AFRAID TO GO BK TO JERSEY!
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my x does nothing.. grandparents take them to school pick them up cook supper and does homework with them.while i coach them in sports take them back and forth to practice…i pick them up at her house cause everytime its a hassle to meet her…she doesnt pack cloths or anything for the kids..i pick them up on friday and take them to school on monday did i add i live an hour away..i have bought all the cloths,shoes and built an addition to my house to give them there own room and bathroom…around the community were my sons goto school everybody thinks i have custody…all i see in courts is money..they dont have the kids needs at front..when my 9 yr old son said dad i dont respect mom.. all she does lay around screams,yells at me and grounds me for everything..even he asks for half the time with each parent…in my case if a judge would ask them what they want.. they would come with me but on the other side the state would lose money cause im in the system. .HEY THIS IS FOR THE IGNORANT JUDGES OUT THERE .. KIDS DONT NEED MONEY THEY NEED LOVE ..if u really think about it this stuff didnt happen 20yrs ago..i can see why kids are so crazy these days…GIVE DADS MORE TIME WITH THE KIDS ..CHILD SUPPORT :JUST ANOTHER WAY AN X CAN MAKE LIFE MISERABLE FOR THE KIDS..
Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
just even up the playing field , give us good fathers justice, the law states its about the child best intrest but nobody from the courts/state ever investigate or to ask a child/teen nothing.unless they are abused ,neglected or etc…..please stop putting all the power in the hands of the misguided and spiteful. I respect all women and what child support suppose to represent but I been doing this tug-a-war with my child mother and i am tired. its discouraging and im tired of fighting in vein.
IT IS NOT RIGHT HOW THE CHILD SUPPORT SYSTEM IS ABLE TO PURSUE THIS UNFAIR INJUSTICE.I HOPE IT CHANGES SOON THIS JUST DONT EFFECT INDIVIDUALS BUT IT DESTROY FAMILIES AND CREATE DIVIDE THAT GIVES THE UPPER HAND TO THOSE WITH BAD ATTENTIONS AND AGENDAS. I PRAY THAT CHANGE HAPPENS SOON
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I owe $30,000 in child support. ($15,000 is in interest and penalty charges). Why? because when I was out of work for 2 years, I filed for unemployment,…I told them to deduct the full amount for child support, but they refused!!! they told me they could only take out a certain percentage for child support. So each week, I got a check, I would send out the remaining child support payment so I would not go into arrears any more than I already was.
15 months pass, and I get a letter in the mail stating that I owe $9,300!!! in penalites!!!
I called, and asked them why? And I was shocked when they told me that I was penalized $200 each week for not making a full payment!!!
When I told them that I was sending the remaining payment on a weekly basis, they told me that because they were receiving it a DAY late, They had to charge $200 a week!!!!
(that’s $800 a month)!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? They go by weekly payments???? Not by how much is owed for the month????
I was ignorant to the system, and later found out that I could modify my support order to a lower payment, by this time it was too late. My interest and penalties are almost just as much as my back child support. I am back to work, and I just took a loan out for college for my daughter for $14,000 and helped my other daughter buy a car. (there is my $15,000 interest and penalties)…Go Figure.
PLEASE CONSIDER SUPPORT REFORM, OUR CHILDREN COULD BENEFIT SO MUCH MORE FROM US.
THIS CHILD SUPPORT SYSTEM IS BULLSHIT THEY NEED TO INVESTIGATE THE MOTHER IN THESE SITUATIONS BECAUSE NOT ALL THE TIME ITS DADDY THAT IS THE DEADBEAT IVE SAT ON A BUS ONE DAY LISTENING TO 2 YOUNG GIRLS PLAN TO GET SOME GUY TO KNOCK THEM UP SO THAT THEY WONT EVER HAVE TO WORK AND JUST COLLECT CHILD SUPPORT FOODSTAMPS AND WELFARE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE IM TELLING YOU THIS SHIT IS EVIL
MICHAEL CARROLL
I’m so discusted with system! my fiance’ is currently incarcerated for non-payment of childsupport, he had just got a job which was almost impossible because one the shitty economy and he already served 14 months for this which they upgraded to a felony abandonment on his record! anyway the amounts are over one hundred thousand a year, for four kids its an impossible feat and even harder with his record now, so he’ll eventually be out and working hopefully again somewhere for nothing! I am a single mother of two myself, they are my life and my responsability, i refuse to be a part of a system that is helping noone but the people who run it all! I’m so sorry for all of you who are caught up in this nightmare, we’ll all hopefully make it through!
Is this still America?
we need this!
Im a father of two.Im also good father.Im on child support cause my baby mom want food stamps and money in her hand.I have my kids every week friday till sun.I also buy cloths and food for my kids.Im diabeted and only way im make it through bless of good.I cant work from diabetes uncontrolible.But i still do my part ,because have family to help me why im down trying to get disabilty.I dont think suspending driver license,hunting/fishing license,federal criminal prosecution,deny passport,place liens on real and personal property including back accounts,report people to the credit bureau,which may negatively affect your credit,suspend and/or deny your business and professional license.I think its a small claim or court thing to get money u are owe.Also my baby mom have business making lil over 2,000 a month and get check for my son which is $674 and courts want me pay $87 week when dont have a job but i do my part having them three days and supporting them
I james lovell sign this petitions that the work that i use to do i can know longer do to my back pay on childsupport it has costed me in lost of my kids and family it almost took my life as well do to polititions in this country and state my life is still un manageable do to no drivers license in the state of georgia i’ve been to jail for i think it is wrong them for leaving non payees in jail with no bond until you have 6months behind bars it is a ractaterion and it is all about money you can thank the mobster in the 20s and 30s for showing the goverment how to screw with peoples lives and now that i cant leave this country to pay for support i cant help that the economy has been shit for 10yrs i dont have diginity anymore it is sad to say that im beginning to hate this country you can send 18 yrs over seas but cant send a child support felon yours truly james lovell ps if you live in georgia and you have kids move out or they will take them for your neglegence
I look forward to Child support reform especially in Georgia
The system is not fair and will never be fair and there is nothing any one can do but suffer
all of us here is being punished for having children
I was incarcerated for the 1st time EVER due to child support. When I had a job I paid… when I lost my job I had nothing to pay. They expect me to pay $137 every week when I make $0. If not I go to jail, as if that is going to help anything. The timing is just horrible, the economy is terrible, I cant seem to get hired anywhere and I don’t know why. Now the mother of my 2 kids is great, she has a job and is struggling terribly… all I need is a job and I think it will be ok. I also have another baby who i don’t see, and I WANT to pay CS, but I have no money. Babies NEED to be taken care of and I love all 3 of my babies… I try to be there in person, because TRUE child support is from fathers to babies, its LOVE, not money. Our system is designed for most of us to fail. Inflation… Tax… Money for this money for that… Its terrible. You have to pay the government to have a baby… babies come naturally. GOD didn’t design it this way. We had kids out of wed-lock and these are the consequences. Lord please have mercy.
child support is ruining my life.
I am a working man of child support reform. I am paying my childrens mothers and the children themselves are not receive the money. The mothers are!! I want my children to have the money open in an account and have a better future a new beginning!!!
Men are depressed upon the point of committing suicide and running from abusive woman. They don’t run out on their children but the abuser and are at their brink of sanity having to leave their children with a potential abuser. The law is so crazy they even levied a ruling on my son to pay her lawyer she brought to court for the session of joint custody. My son had used all his savings to try and get joint custody. The courts are so out of control and need assistance from level headed law makers to make it right for fathers. We need judges that can see through these woman. But because she had gone through the system and having the tax payer pay for their drug rehab and trips to meth clinics and become felons they seem to hold these people in more esteem and above the law. My son has paid for all his mistakes on his own and not through the system and now he has to turn to this same system to get out of her system.
ADDITIONAL COMMENT:
Losing a license in this and any economy is devastating for any person,especially for a man who has to pay child support. The State laws are to fill their pockets and jails and put more taxes on all individuals to support these idiotic laws. Some woman take a vindictive mode when it comes to their children as well placing the father in further distress by not allowing them to see their children.
More often than not most of these woman are bitter and hateful and love keeping their prior spouses or relationships pinned down with child support that disables a working man that are unable to pay.
The individual I am familiar way actually destroyed documents that IRS could use to lower child support and managed to bring in a yearly up to date from five year previous dates to get outrageous child support fees. My son sold his painting rigs, truck and other means of working equipment to help support his children. Only to have her cheating behind his back and then going to the Child Support office to levy a child support order. This is a father who would take his children anytime. So now the maternal grandmother and the paternal grandmother care for the children five days out of a week and she still manages to receive outrageous child support. She is a felon and has the support of the State to manage her drug problem as well.
I’m in a very DIRE predictament with my child support debt I have no valid DL since it was suspended, 3 vehicles have been taken, I have an opportunity to start a business but because of Child Support debt, I am not eligible to obtain a business license. No transportation, no DL, no business,no employment hence no child support payments. These things are only the beginning of my problems. If I cannot procure an income payments aren’t made then the debt grows and I am afraid of going to court and being arrested for lack of payment and going to jail which would incur more debt.
I am still involved with my children and in there lives, not as much as they or I would like but circumstances with transportation and losing my home have left no where for them to sleep when they are with me.. As time goes on the debt increases, still no work which means no income and anyway I turn there is no help or relief for my trouble. Finding gainful employment here in California is very difficult at this time without my extended family, I would be hungry and homeless and still incuring debt on a daily basis. Child Support Reform is much needed please help.
Here is another sad story of the heavy hand of injustice to the father of children. i have three children with a women who we have separated almost five years ago. She refuses to work or better herself. I have been to school and make a decent wage and have my children approx 43% of the time. I Still have to pay her far too much money. this sense of entitlement will drag this country down to the lowest depths poverty. Everyone wants something for nothing. I conclude that my Ex is a BUM, she gets food stamps, Section 8 and during the child support process she got imputed income. I reminded her that one day all this will end and when she looks back at her life she will get back all that she has put in. She considers herself a stay at home mom, so I guess life is all about a point of view. I call her a Bum and hope that what I am instilling in my children will stick so they can benefit from this nations opportunities. Financially the answer is to get your moneies in a corp entity and let the courts attempt to pierce the corp veil. Which most judges are reluctant to do and set the precedent. Get a good lawyer and work the plan. the day will come when the ones getting a free ride in the wagon will find themselves not going anywhere, and as you see by the latest financial news that is not far off. So be patient, and trust in your Lord. because when this economy crumbles the ones on the bottom will be crushed by the weight.
I am tired. I love my children, my son hates me and because his mother told him bad things about me. i want to help him but now I heard he is smoking weed and drink alcohol. I tried to be in touch for along time, but his mother sabotage that every time. As long as she gets money for him its fine. I was getting unemployment for almost two years i now owe back support and i cannot go home where i have 3 26 footer trucks in haiti, because i was denied the privilege of getting a passport. i can travel back and forth to do export to help my children, this is the only way to make a good leaving right now, but my wealth are now being wasted, i cant go to take care of things. my aunt died 12 days ago in haiti I could not go to her funeral. I have family members, who died in the earth quake i could not assist in getting them under the rubble or to assist their funeral. only one cousin was burried in the us after leaving haiti two months later died of an heart attack. I need help to take care of my children by traveling back and forth over seas but now I do not know when I will be able to go home to see people who are dear to me and at the same time used my wealth over seas to take care of my kids
illinois child support is tragically corrupt!
I lived this nightmare for years many years ago. I still can’t understand these very well educated poloticians. They obviously have never lived from paycheck to paycheck with there 100k + yearly income. We are talking about middle income families. For one parent to absorb all the support to raise a child is lutachrist. Then tey think we’ll get them to pay we’ll take there drivers licence away. HOW STUPID! Now they can’t get to work. OOOOHHHH………..Sorry I just figured it out I think. Now they can make a speach about how they have created jobsin their state. This make them Politicaly look good to the voting citizens. My theroy is TWO adults created the children, TWO adults should be responsable for there support. You’ll never make me believe it is that way. the one that has the children stick out there hand and the other is expectied to give. even if they don’t have it. But the courts sides with the parent with the children. If it cost $300.00 a week to support a child the now matter what the income of the parents each should pay $150.00 a week. Now if they aren’t making that much it should be adjusted but it still should be half!!!!!
The state of Texas revoked my drivers license, I have a 6yr old and a wife and simply cant afford to pay backpay. Im forced to walk, run, ride a bike borrow rides or grind my teeth and drive looking over my shoulder praying I dont get caught driving. I am a professional blue collar american who is educated, I cannot find a job making more money to pay the child support and living expense nor will any employer higher a so called “dead beet dad” or higher me without a drivers license. This has completely ruining my families life. please if anyone can hear us HELP!
I’m in the system and a testament on how the GA Courts create Deadbeat Dads. Without an Attorney, I the Dad, asked the Courts for joint legal custody and joint physical custody of my only child. FYI I am a fit parent with no criminal record and I make more money than the Mom. The Mom w/ Prono Bono Attorney asked for Sole custody. The Courts awarded her Joint legal Custody with Primary Parent status (meaning she makes final decisions) and Sole Physical custody. I was awarded Joint Legal custody with Standard visitation (i.e. minimum). The Courts then uses the State income guidelines of Child support and orders that I, the Dad must pay the Mom $1050.00 per month for our single child which is 25% of my Net income. This increases Mom’s income by 50% - Tax Free! Now I have to look forward to the financial burden of paying this debt, begging the Court for a reduction or go to jail. The Family Court system is broken and we the People need action. What can I do?
From the beginning, the Courts should enforce a shared/equal parenting time by default and both parents are responsible 50/50 for child expenses only – see 14th Amendment of Constitution – Equal protection of the Law. Too much government has created a broken Family Law system. The only winners are the Lawyers! The State should not be transferring wealth to correct the imbalance of bad decisions and lack of foresight by consenting adults. Mom and Dad are both equally liable for basic child expenses only (food, shelter), all other expenses (Day Care, Private School, Foreign Language, Sports etc.) must be consented or non-liable to the parent. Nobody gets a free ride!
ADDITIONAL COMMENT:
From the beginning, the Courts should enforce a shared/equal parenting time by default and both parents are responsible 50/50 for child expenses only – see 14th Amendment of Constitution – Equal protection of the Law. Too much government has created a broken Family Law system. The only winners are the Lawyers! The State should not be transferring wealth to correct the imbalance of bad decisions and lack of foresight by consenting adults. Mom and Dad are both equally liable for basic child expenses only (food, shelter), all other expenses (Day Care, Private School, Foreign Language, Sports etc.) must be consented or non-liable to the parent. Nobody gets a free ride!
ADDITIONAL COMMENT:
I’m in the system and a testament on how the Courts create Deadbeat Dads. Without an Attorney, I the Dad, asked the Courts for joint legal custody and joint physical custody of my only child. FYI I am a fit parent with no criminal record and I make more money than the Mom. The Mom w/ Prono Bono Attorney asked for Sole custody. The Courts awarded her Joint legal Custody with Primary Parent status (meaning she makes final decisions) and Sole Physical custody. I was awarded Joint Legal custody with Standard visitation (i.e. minimum). The Courts then follows the State income guidelines of Child support and orders that I, the Dad must pay the Mom $1050.00 per month for our single child which is 25% of my Net income. This increases Mom’s income by 50% - Tax Free! Now I have to look forward to the financial burden of paying this debt, begging the Court for a reduction or going to jail. The Family Court system is broken and we the People need action. What can I do?
Father for Family Law Reform
From President Obama; Legislatures, 2011/09/12 at 4:34 PM
From President Obama; Legislatures, 2011/09/12 at 4:49 PM
im all for child support what ever it takes for the parent to take responsiabillty mother or father im tired of wemen well my sons mother realing on my blood sweat and tears to pay her bills and to take care of her other child (she has three kids she gave one up for adoption) shes on sec 8 only bill she has is an electric bill basically child support allows her to live a reckless life and not take responsabilty oh get this she wanted my son to come live with me but with a catch she wanted to keep the child support! thats y m not mad at my father you never know what people put you through i promise u barack i will take my life be for i live on the streets because i cant pay my bills
its sad i dont wanna kill my self but? if i have to i hope it gets on the news
From President Obama; Legislatures, 2011/09/26 at 10:03 PM
its going to bitr her in the behind because shes not going to have nothing to fall back on when my son becomes an adult to all payor keep yall heads up i promise this the last comment to all parents who realies on child support to support your self shame on you i hope you go to HELL!
From President Obama; Legislatures, 2011/09/26 at 10:24 PM
my story is about the same as most of the heart breaking stories i have read here, I am a loving father but the mother of my 2 children decided she wants her new husband to be the father of my children, i am sorry i will not sit back and watch this happen. I am a recovering alcoholic with 2 DWI, i can fill out applications till i am blue in the face but there are so many applicants mine will never make it to the top. I WANT TO PAY, i want to see my children most of all, please reform before it’s to late and i am sitting in prison for a crime i did not want to commit in the first place.
my arreages started out at 3,000 dollars, and now with interest it is at 83,000 dollars, and i have been paying my arreges for 16yrs now, and the arrearages keep going up, and up even thou i pay the amount that was agreed upon. The state of california had threw me in jail because i was unable to pay the amount the state wanted so they gave me 6 months in county jail, and the arrearages still were accumilating interest, and they ruined my credit report to where i have difficulties getting a good paying job. Now with the economy in disaster my pay is a third of what it use to be, we tried to get it to a rate i can pay ,but the state would only go to a number that would indefinately keep me owing for the rest of my life. my interest rate is more than what i pay a month in arrearages…this is criminal….
(Written by wife, due to my recent incarceration for failure to appear)
When I learned that I had a daughter she was 7 years old. From that point, I have supported her but have been unable to visit her. The arrearages I now owe are from the 7 years prior to my knowledge of her.
Due to the nature of my work, have experienced many layoffs in the past two years from outsourcing to other countries. I received unemployment and child support was deducted from that…no problem. Every job I have, I have this deducted. Recently, I moved up in my career to a stable company with lucrative pay and benefits…have been employed since 8-13. October 1, the company finally got my child support allotment started and on October 6, I was arrested and placed uinder a 10,000 cash appearance bond. At this time, I am no longer employed, awaiting first appearance hearing on October 19 and my wife who is 61 years old is in a 3 bedroom house with a full garage and no help to move property out. She has a health problem and up until this job I have been unable to afford health insurance for her. She printed out records from the clerk of court and saw discrepancies in what DSS had provided. This is an ERISA case from Tennessee. The child, homeschooled all of her life, has been out of school since age 14.
Something needs to be done there is nothing fair about the way child support is set up… the one getting the support should have to show something showing where they spend the money on the child not themselves… if they have a felony and the other parent has a clean record they should be considered unfit… Also i think they should have to claim the child support as earned income for the year… and child support should be figured on your net pay not gross pay you never see the gross so why should they…
I am in agreement with every thing that is stated herein and dually feel something should be done about this problem. What is needed here is an full time attorney tofight this problem on and at every level, full time with public support until this injustice of American civil and Constitional law is reformed and or changed in due process for the rights of fathers whom support these prostitutes who have childern only for the purpose of self security as some do. It is well known that most all women marry for security of self and superimpose this into a life long process by having children, so to say grabbilg the male by the (Balls) for as long as they can to squeeze as much money out of him for as long as they can i obtaining (child support). This is a womans scam that has been going on since time began and the system upholds it for them.
Let’s be homest, this is how it really is with women, they decieve men, seduce men for their own profits and protection to have someone to support them through this form of blackmail in and of sex with them, they deviously plan having children for the purpose of having security provided to them by someone so they can live the (housewife) life they desire and have an easy life at their leisure. If one would remove the marage ceterficate from all married wemen they would be recoginized as who they really are, (WHORES), only the ceterficate makes them wives,not the (whores) they are having sex and childern for their own security and well being.
So the thing we have learned here is the difference between a wife and a (whore) is a ceterficiate, they recieve the same profits, money.
Change this system.
I have been through a lot of chid support and custody issues. I hope that the government realizes that money is important but if a father can have equal time with his child there is would be no need for money to exchange hands between the parents..
We need a change and We need it now…
This really need to change for Child Support! I filed for divorce 4 yrs ago when I found out my wife was having an affair, I put everything in motion she stayed with him and the kids stayed with me. During our divorce my wife stated that if I wanted child support she was going to fight me for custody. I told her all I need is my kids, so I had custody of my 3 boys for yr and a half when my hours at my job started to get crazy and she modified our custody. She now would have physical custody and I agreed to pay child support, at a amount we both agreed apon. Today I find out after 3yrs that she is trying to raise my support nearly twice as much as I pay. Six months after the divorce she remarried got pregnant with twins and we both moved on. She has purchased three new vehicles, a new house and vacations to Mexico. I still have same truck that was 3yrs old when I purchased during our marriage, have never taken a nice vacation and work 10-12 hrs a day to make ends meet for my bills and obligations. I also have contributed other money to my kids, sports, school clothes, shoes, braces and carry the insurance. I unerstand that children and parents need support, but I know my support will not be for my kids or what they need.
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Child Support reform is definitely needed, as I am being victimised as well.
I am a mom and the amount of child support I am having to pay is gonna make me loose my car and my home. Because I have a good job, and father is to lazy to get a real paying job. Now I am working to pay him…..
Something needs to be done because the parents that are granted the child.support dont even spend the money on the kids.
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yes we need to take the government back , by any means ( the truth, by the consitution) fire them all who cheat lie steal , commit murder of unborn children and say its legal because us poeples who make the law and are highly educated in it say so. I HAVE BECOME SO DISALUSIONED IN THIS COUNTRY IT AINT LIKE IT WAS .!!!!!!!
there is no safe guards for the mentally ill… and basically you could be dieing from cancer and still be sent to jail for nonpayment. use the jail for the criminals and stop throwing dads in while others get out for overcrowding.
I agree it needs reform, I was working at Caterpillar in Illinois making 85k and paying my child support to Michigan and was arrested, Spent 70 days in jail before being shipped up to Detroit and then get before the judge, he ripped the state prosecutors a new one and said he was sorry…so you rocket scientists’ how do I pay my support now.
This is what happens when the states hire people with no education just because they are a minority, have you ever tried to get something done in any offices in the Detroit area ….
It was the great gov gramhom new law ,,it was to help pay michigan sate workers cause every company was leaving michigan for better taxes
To whom it may concern,
I have my three children a considerable amount of the time in which the time I spend with them is spent at my father’s home being that I’m unable to afford my own residence. To eliminate child care expenses my time with the children is scheduled around my co-parents work schedule. I have them Mondays and Tuesdays from 2:30pm till 10:30pm and Fridays at 2:30pm till Sunday at noon. I have to provide snacks for them when they get home from school and four nights out the week I have to prepare dinner for them. On the weekends I must provide their clothing as well as their breakfast and lunch. My youngest child is one years old and for him I have supply his pampers, baby wipes, formula and other baby items. I understand that there are “dead beat” fathers and they should be held finically accountable. The problem is that the “law” has caused fathers such as me who are major part of our children lives to provide support for two households which I am unable to do. As a result of the excessive support I had to reduce and even forfeit my time with the children because I’m unable to provide for them when they are with me. This is very tragic and the bottom line is it’s hurting the children! When they are with me they are entitled to the same lifestyle they receive when they are with their mother as far as decent meals, a bed to rest in, toys and other entertainment basically a place to consider their own. Is not the child support for the children and for the best interest of the children? If this is so then why is the amount of time I spend with the children not being calculated into the support? If the amount of support that I am paying is causing me decrease the quantity of time that I’m able to spend with my children is the support really in the best interest of the children?
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I hope this works
I pray this helps fathers such as us who would love to take care of there children but can’t due to the economy.I to am a father that has two households and wife is the sole provider at present time but can’t look for work due to suspension of licences due to non payment not cause I don’t want to but because I can’t with no income coming in then they want you to get into an written agreement you can’t possibly honor but one get in to keep licences for a month longer no justice or comon logic in this I feel inadequate as a man and a provider then further injury and insult no licences to even get child to spend weekend visits or go participate in their afterschool activities wow
I dont mind paying child support but i agree the whole system needs to be reformed
I can’t say I’m shocked to here these horrible experiences. I love my kids but I’m constantly tortured by the mother for 4 years straight one thing or another. She will not allow me to speak with them on a daily or weekly basis not to mention my children will not come to me when she present. This takes a toll on me mentally and hurts my soul endlessly. She knows how much I love my kids and she uses it like a weapon. No holidays, birthdays, not even a call. I pay her 1200.00 a month which is nearly half of monthly income after taxes and this all without a court order. She also just gave birth to a child and gave him up for adoption…mind you she is a 36 year old woman…wtf and she treats me like scum, I have no rights because we haven’t went to court due to the fact that I don’t wish to loss my house or freedom should I fall behind or back child support when we were a family for 2.5 years. I don’t fell that I can take this mentally ill BM for another 14 or so years , I’m thinking about singing my rights over and leaving the country. I know it sounds cowardly but you can’t notigoiate with a mad woman.
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I want vote for Obama because it is not fair how if you owe child support which is a civil case. You go to jail with killer and rapist and durg dealers.
my ex-wife didn’t raise our youngest son her mother did but the courts do not care i still have to pay her child support an i’m going to court for contempt for not paying support she had nothing to do with raising him or caring for him her mother did it all but i am the bad person if her mom got the money it would be different but her mom complained to me because her daughter would not help her some court system. mike laycox 12/27/11
i really enjoyed reading all this an it has helped me some i need to look for a few other things to to help me out thanks alot writing this have a great day mike
James gary carlson. I have lost e.verything I own do do a tornado in joplin missouri. I’ve lost my job everything. I finally found a job 65 percent of my check. how to 400 dollars I bring home or to my car 100 dollars. I am living in my car and was told I’m living beyond my means. It is 30 degrees out here and cold.
yes, so sad.. my spouse is trying even with his limited funds and our surviving necessities.. may god be with us all!!!
I need assistant.
I also am a victum I filed for child support on myself because she skipped town with another guy with my son. I had no idea where she was. So I filed for child support on my self. Two years later they finally served her with papers in a city 5 hours from me. On top of that they moved my case to the city where she lived. So I show up to court and the judge looks at me like if Im the one that was hiding or trying to be a dead beat dad. He ordered me to pay two years back pay for the time it took them to find her. The two years that she was hiding. He never took into consideration that I filed on my self or that she actually had to get served with papers to come to court, and here lately I have been moving from job to job I can bearly keep up with the payments, and she still wont let me see my son. I’ve done research on this and its going to cost me more money that I don’t have on top of the child support that I pay for me to have rights as a father to see my own son.
Okay, I see all these stories and yes I am in the system also. My ex-wife is not the worst but she is doing what the system allows, so I don’t fault her. The system is to blame. AGI calucations, no tax deducations 4 the money you give for child support and so many other issues that prove voters rights are not acknowledged. With this being an eletion year, what is the next action, when is the physical presences of these words going to be seen. All I am asking for is fair, equal, control over all factors that impact our children that require my input. I make the money for the child support payment, why do I have no authority on how it is spent, why cannot some of it be saved for college fund or their future expenses that personal finance teaches us all. IRS reform, more non-custodial parent control negative fiscal impact and shared parenting equal lifestyle in both households. I’ve been legally homeless is our separation/divorce and insolvent. I did not sign a contract of poverty when we divorced, I thought that was the purpose of the split. If this energy is not captured during this election year, then when. I will not let this sytem defeat my will to succeed!!!!
I am in the same positions as many of you my husband now pays $430.00 a month in C.S and also carries insurance on his one daughter that he has with his ex. I also have a daughter that her dad dosen’t help at all in taking care of her so he stepped in to help we also have a child together!! so all and all our budget is pretty tight. Well he lost his job yesterday and we called to see what we could do and they said we have to wait 3 months to do anything with it but be sure if he were to get a pay raise the would jump right on making him pay more but god forbid a man loose his job and they dont want to help him out at all at least till he gets back on his feet i really dont get our system it sets every man trying to take care of his kids for failure!!!!!!!
Signed!
I just agree that child support be cut and make low down woman take care of their child only if a man can not do so, but you should not lay down and have a child if u can’t take care of it. Some women put men on child support for no reason and men get their license suspended and go to jail. Now how do we suppose to get around with no license and I know everybody agrees dat life is set up for failure. I think it is we should not be on child support at all cancel it alway out. Enough money is already lost give us men another chance who want to take care of their child. God Bless Of All ;)
A&J
I agree there needs to be some type of reform. I dont know much about child support law, but its really unfair to some people.I was on child support because my girl-friend had no choice but to put me on it, due to she was receiving welfare at the time, not no more she’s fully employed now,oh may i remind u i was incarcerated while we were together and we are still together and all my kids were in the car when they took me for non support, this happen a year and a half ago, back to when i went to jail, where im from its mandatory to have a hearing with in 3 days after incarceration, the day of my hearing i call my girl friend up and tell her, so she can have my money ready so i can get out that day,i owed 1200.00, i had 500.00 dollars guess what for some reason the judge didnt let me out, he gave me 6 months, i was so pissed off!!! so i went back to jail, had a interview with some person they let me go to work release and get a job. i did the stupidest thing ever didnt go back to work release got a lil mad cause i couldnt find a job, if u cant find a job with in the time frame u go back to jail and couldnt find one so thats where i am today still hidding. i hate so much, ive doing a lil research to see if i can get probation or something, if i get caught i ll be charged with a m2, besides all i love my kids more then anything in the world i have 5 all buy the same person and ive been in all there lives since day 1 and still am ,there running around the house as im typing this,i feel its so wrong to take a father or mother out a kids life who supports them for non support i hate it.thanks for listening if some has any advice for i would love to here it my email is shizymac2312@gmail.com